If Loma avenges Salido is he better than Mayweather?

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I'm anticipating the Geebois are about to jump ship after last night....

    That said, Loma is the real deal... and fights anyone without an endless checklist of purses, belts, catch weight offers, or a trainer who runs his mouth etc. His only loss came in a fight he took after Salido failed to make weight. Loma doesn't look for the odds to be stacked in his favour, he's a true warrior and the likely P4P No1 going forward. Triple who?
     
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  2. drenlou

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    Let's let him get to that level before we start the Floyd comparisons, though they'll come. Floyd has too many haters for them not to.
     
  3. drenlou

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    :biggrin:
     
  4. Gannicus

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    Lol don't worry about the role reversal, this is what I'd say as it is..
    Better resume = Floyd
    Better fighter = Depends on how they looked against these guys. None of them are even guaranteed low tier HOF's so it is a question up in the open
    Greater resume = Floyd but people will argue Loma because he did it in a few fights
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    And to answer the question is he better than Floyd. Really? You ask this question off the back of one fight? Ask it again in two years. But yeah he's got the potential to be an ATG, there's no doubt about that...

    He's certainly better than triple drama show...
     
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  6. drenlou

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    Fewer fights but against what level of competition? Chicanito and Chico would wipe out Walters and Martinez easy. GRJ Would cause problems because of his speed of both foot and hands but he would lose too imo. That's why I say role reverals, because back then prospects climbed the ladders, now days fighters like Shiming and Loma get pushed right out the gate and lose to fighters like reuonrang and Salido. It is what it is.
     
  7. thefactor

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    You guys that hold the Salido loss against him need to be straightened out. A lot of the blame can be laid with Arum. He should have know better than putting him in against a mex american in texas when he knew they would get Lawrence Cole who failed to protect Loma from the barrage of low blows which Salido got away with. There should have been at least a point. Salido came in at 147 and outweighed him by 17lbs. That's a featherweight fighting a super lightweight. He was badly fukt in the ass on the weight. It was a split decision, close fight I had it a draw. Loma had him hurt in the last rd and Salido admitted it. Under the circumstances it was an outstanding performance by Loma.
     
  8. PistolPat

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    Morales is an ATG, but his first fight at 130 pounds against Jesus Chavez was quite a difficult fight for him (mid fight Chavez also couldn't use one of his hands due to injury), and he rocked Morales bad early. It was an amazing performance by Morales and one of my favorite Morales fights, but had he moved up in weight earlier and fought Chico or Castillo instead he would most likely have taken a beating.

    Back then Castillo was weighing in at 147 on fight night just like Salido (he was also better than current Salido and Jesus Chavez in every facet of the game excluding Chavez's ridiculous workrate). On top of that Freitas also had a style similar to Jones who beat Morales and had way more power, then there was another beast in Casamayor. Both of who Floyd sadly never fought, which is one of the biggest gripes I have with Floyd, that he sadly didn't stick around to clean up this division.

    130 was a great division back then, they may not be considered all time greats, but they would all have given ATG's like Morales and Barrera hell had those two moved up to fight them, Morales said himself in the lead up to Chavez fight that he was sick of draining himself and that he felt stronger than ever after having moved to 130, which is why he made the move in the first place.

    Lastly, they were undoubtedly better than a past prime Salido, as well as the current Walters and Donaire residing in the 130 division. I don't want to get into the whole Floyd vs Loma thing, I like both. This is more about how much people underestimated that division back then because none of them are considered all time greats.
     
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  9. Brixton Bomber

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    When did Floyd ever look as good as Loma did yesterday?

    Loma was MINDBLOWING yesterday.
     
  10. DoubleJab666

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    True enough. But it was one fight of a eight fight career and we're talking about comparing like-for-like. We can only do that when there are two similar careers to compare. How can you measure longevity for Loma right now? It's not possible atm.... but I agree he's was outstanding last night and made an elite fighter feel so inadequate, he chose to quit. The evidence is there that Loma could eclipse all the great fighters of the last 10-15 years but he's yet to do that simply because he's not had enough fights, not had to drag out a few wins against stellar opposition when he's way below his best, or carrying an injury, for example. It's simply too soon to anoint him.
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Floyd was mind blowing against a better fighter in Corrales. Oh Corrales was drained, well so was Walters.
     
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    People choose to airbrush out Floyd's early career, before his hand injuries and before he turned 30. 130llbs Mayweather was otherworldly good....
     
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  13. drenlou

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    He'll yeah he was.. people want to say GRJ, Roman Martinez and Nicholas Walters are better wins than Chicanito and Chico H2H or even P4P historically, they're ****ing nutts!!!!!!!!!
     
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    An 8 fight career where he is already a TWO TIME CHAMPION.

    Longevity? He was the greatest amateur in the world for years. Floyd has years off and people somehow still count it for him.

    Besides, that one fight will be a performance that people will be talking about in 30 years time.
     
  15. DoubleJab666

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    But putting the Floyd comparison to rest, largely coz it's driven by other people's agenda rather than an objective assessment of two boxers, Loma was amazing last night. Spellbindingly good. And I won on the under 9.5!
     
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