If Lomachenko is this p4p #1 ATG unbeatable force he should fight Bud Crawford

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah, the only exposed jackass here is you. Stop acting like what you post matters fool.
     
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  2. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Why u mad tho lol
     
  3. Kaan

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    Who is saying that feat parallels Loma's Campbell win? And what does it have to do with the fact that Loma maxes out at 135 compared to Pac's 140 or 147? ( you can even argue it's the same for pac as well, which is 135. I think he eats A LOT to make 147+ )
    They both are good wins and I rate Cotto win over Campbell win. But... That doesn't make it worth any less one happens in the welterweight and one happens in lightweight. It's the difference between boxers in my pov. And wasn't Cotto win Pac's like 9th division anyway?

    I don't think SR and Lomachenko are that close. I really don't think Loma would look that big next to ODLH.
    I never go with official height listing because I've seen time and time again they are bollocks! Whether be it boxers, artists, models. They can't be trusted. And please don't call me names on that one, it's the way it is.
    I'm not sure on reach - before you ask. But you can see Lomachenko has narrow shoulders.
    http://fightnights.com/uploads/lomachenko.jpg he is narrow as ****. especially on the spot where it actually matters.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Loma was campaigning down at 108 when he was the same age Manny turned pro (16), Loma turned pro a few months shy of his 26th birthday. That's 8 weight classes below the one he currently campaigns in.
     
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  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, you got jack **** to reply with... fkn troll.
     
  6. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Here's why it matters.

    Because his fans are saying he is up there with the likes of Pacquiao and Mayweather.

    His best wins are not in the same level of a Mayweather or a pacquiao

    I have seen no evidence he's on that level

    I don't care about excuses that he's too small for this guy or that guy or there's nobody around who's a good opponent or whatever.

    Ok fine if the best guy you can fight is Luke Campbell fine but if you are Mayweather level you best not be dropping rounds to him

    Get out of here with these ridiculous claims.

    He's a very good fighter that's it he aint on no Mayweather or pacquiao level

    Get outta here with all that, those claims are joke business.
     
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  7. Kaan

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    You can argue his wins aren't at that level. But there is no point in arguing he STILL needs to move up in weight classes.
    You could say 'hey you need to be fighting better opposition if you want to be better than PAC' but there is no point asking for him to go up. He can't. Whether he is as good as PAC or Floyd is a bit irrelevant. He is doing what PAC is doing at 147 for me in 135.
    I didn't see Floyd giving up 4-5 inches of reach in every of his matchup, which was crucial for his style. The one time he gave up reach advantage (again this again is according to boxrec's official listings) was against Berto. Who cares about him? And the other was ODLH, big props to Floyd for that one.
    Still, I never have seen him had to overcome 5 inches both height and reach against solid opposition, time after time. -which is what Loma has done since he moved to lightweight.
    Floyd always had the longer reach enjoying being able to tap without getting tapped. How is that still possible if you're actually small. You don't even have to come forward. Anyway, I really don't want to argue about that, but that's still a point.
     
  8. Odins beard

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    There you go 177 in camp.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    How many times was Floyd at a reach disadvantage throughout his career? I'll wait. Loma has probably tripled the amount of times Floyd was in just 15 fights and one of the few times in Floyd's career he was he was getting lit up by a MMA fighter who was 0-0-0 as a boxer and obviously making their pro debut. There's no way in goddamn hell Sugar Money Mac should've landed a single shot on a world class boxer, let alone on an elite one but Sugar Money Mac took 'TBE's'' ass to Slick School for 4 rounds and it would've been a 12 round schooling or a late stoppage had Sugar's gas tanks been full of fuel instead of neat whisky.
     
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  10. tinman

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    Manny was campaigning at 106 at 16. And he was putting weights his pockets because he was under 100 pounds.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    That's because he could only afford to eat once a month and was severely malnourished and IIRC 108 is the lowest weight class in amateur boxing and Loma was probably putting boulders in his pockets at the weigh in.
     
  12. Ph33rknot

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    because they didn't fight in The same weight classes ever
     
  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    even a drains malnourished Pac kills Loma
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Pretty sure drained malnourished Manny has already been KO'd by a street vendor/bum
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Salido? Isn't that what everyone said