If Manny can beat Cotto at any weight...why does he ALWAYS demand a catchweight?

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  1. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    no he declined and they fought and loss to Bradley..........THEN Floyd fought Cotto at 154 NO CATCHWEIGHT.........Why cant manny? he weighted 150 on fight night with Bradley same as Floyd with Ortiz
     
  2. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wasn't a defense, it was a unification. Talk about trying to cheat history. Worst of all, he shouldn't have even had the belt
     
  3. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    I do not expect him to last very long here... He need to take his garbage back to Bscene, but take notes this guy has been on all day its mid way through the night and you dont expect me to last long here??i been here before i went to the scene son
     
  4. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    lmfao so he wasnt defending his damn belt???even in a unification bout you have to DEFEND your belt
     
  5. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right, and this time around they offered him 150, probably cause he needs good ppv numbers as leverage vs Floyd.

    I already told you why Manny can't, he said he's done moving up. He'll stick to his 7th weight. Meanwhile, is Floyd willing to fight any challenger in his 5th? He didn't even acknowledge Sergio till SM floated 150lbs
     
  6. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    what was your former user name?
     
  7. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok whatever, I'll give it to you if it means a lot. Was there a 6lb rehydration clause? Was the opponent a one eyed bum?
     
  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you have no clue what the "even playing field" means ...
    according to you it would be fair when WW challenges Klitchko?

    I don't think PAC was fighting guys who are out of his weight class
    maybe except DLH who was not fighting at WW for a long time
    but it was DLH idea to have a catch weight just to attract PAC.
     
  9. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    post a link to the rehydration clause


    By Dan Ambrose:
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    . The weight cap would have pretty much guaranteed that Margarito came into the fight weight-drained, weak and vulnerable.



    This, along with 150 pound catchweight, were what the 30-year-old Cotto was asking for before he’d face Margarito again in their fight at the Madison Square Garden, New York, New York. What was confusing about all this is that Cotto had already fought twice at junior middleweight without the cap or the catchweight handicap against the light hitting Yuri Foreman and Ricardo Mayorga.

    But now suddenly Cotto was asking for a handicap catchweight and cap against Margarito, a fighter that hasn’t won a fight in over two years and recently took such a savage beating at the hands of Manny Pacquiao that he needed surgery to fix the damage. It would seem that Cotto is safe this time around and in a strong position to win the fight without any gimmicks.

    Cotto lost by an 11th round TKO to Margarito three years ago in July 2008. Cotto was left a bloody mess in that fight, and was forced to take a couple of knees to escape the punishment. However, that Margarito doesn’t exist anymore, as he doesn’t throw punches with the same kind of power he did then and he doesn’t throw nearly as many either. Margarito has aged, and so has Cotto.

    Other than a beating by Pacquiao in 2009, Cotto has been playing it safe in the last two fights against 38-year-old Ricardo Mayorga, and weak punching Foreman. And now Cotto is facing a fighter that many boxing fans see as completely shot in Margarito.

    It’s the third easy fight for Cotto, and not the one that boxing fans want to see. Fans want to see Cotto fight Sergio Martinez, the best fighter in the middleweight and previous best in the junior middleweight division. Cotto isn’t eager to take that fight for some reason.

    Fans also want to see Cotto fight Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., the WBC middleweight paper champion, if nothing else than to see Cotto take out and expose Chavez Jr. However, Bob Arum, the promoter for both Chavez Jr. and Cotto, is waiting and letting Chavez Jr. milk his newly won title against weak opposition. Cotto will come but only after a little milking has been done and Chavez Jr. has his back against the wall where he has to defend his title against someone that would beat him like Martinez and Marco Antonio Rubio.
     
  10. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said requested, as in

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/6921196/miguel-cotto-wrangles-catchweight-antonio-margarito

    Btw good job quoting bn24, you really know your credible sources
     
  11. Thatman

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    To get a grip on the negotiations. He wanted to use the weight to get more money etc...So he can do that. They still agreed on 153 whatever the case.

    LOL at your response to me..that was a horrible rebuttal. So again, what he said in negotiations as compared to what was agreed upon is something entirely different. Pac is scared to do it at 153 so he didn't offer. Knows he can't beat Cotto when Cotto is that high in weight.
     
  12. Thatman

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    you really got played. There was no rehydration clause. Even if one was requested during negotiations, that is just that...a request...What can be uses is what was actually agreed upon. So if I were Manny and I were not scared, I would offer a 153 weight...but he is scared so he won't do that.
     
  13. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    Manny transcends any boxing rules or stipulation..
     
  14. JohnAnthony

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    hmmm, some good points made here
     
  15. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People bashing Pac in the past on that catchweight again