if MANNY is using PED's So are others, WHY ARE THEY NOT #1 ?

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    That argument might have an ounce of merit in it if it were'nt for this..........


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  2. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    So if you give PEDS to Malignaggi, he would become a knockout artist?
     
  3. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Because you don't realize that what Pac is saying that a bigger man can give a much bigger blood volume without being affected.

    It has a commonsense in it, albeit on simpleton's or common masa point of view.

    Obviously blood volume is relative to size. A 70 kilograms person woule have an equivalent of 20 percent blood per weight or roughly 14 liters. while a 50 kilograms person would have 10 liters.

    So generally he was saying that everyday taking of blood had greater effect on him than Gayweather because Gayweather is the naturally bigger guy.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know thats hogwash P.....for that argument to have merit, Mayweather would have to outweigh him by over 30 lbs.
    There fightnight weight difference currently is less than 10 lbs.
     
  5. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    That is why it is a simpleton's point of view. All he was saying is that Mayweather is bigger. Period. He did not realize that they are apart by probably 5 pounds at their walking weight. Pac did not finish primary school so what do you expect. He is street smart but not academically smart.

    Pac is still thinking that he is smaller than Mayweather. The fact that Mayweather has been a welterweight since 2005 could explain this.

    Fight night weight of 10 pounds is till a liter of blood difference.

    BTW, it is a culturally ingrained in the pinoy pyche to even out fights. It is called "partida" in the flilipino language, in kid's fights, when the bigger guy challenges a smaller guy, they have a partida, meaning a handicap like tying one arm or something. In any negotiations, even in marriages, this psyche persists.
     
  7. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny no doubt wants Mayweather. Manny has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he loves to challenge himself in the sport of boxing.

    There was no guarantee he could take the blow of a Welterweight with or without PED's. He has fought the best before he moved up to 140 and 147.

    On the other hand to be fair Mayweather has done the opposite. He fought JMM at Welter when JMM never even foughtt 140 and fought Mosley off his longest stretch of inactivity. All of Mosley's losses came on 6 month or longer of inactivity. 6 months before Vernon was his longest to that point of his career and he lost and again he fought Forrest of the same layoff and lost.
    Same thing happened vs Winky - 6 month layoff Winky beat him and Shane lost and again vs Winky after an 8 month layoff.

    Manny coming from under 110 pounds should not have to do anything to fight Mayweather no blood, no demands just split the money, sign and fight.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao has dominated every Welterweight he's faced, and you're going to sit at your computer keyboard and tell me he wants a "partida" from Mayweather Jr.???:patsch:nut

    ......and then Pac goes on to physically pound on Antonio Margarito who outweighs him by 17 lbs fightnight, and thats supposed to ease Mayweather's mind that Pacquiao is a PED user?:lol::lol::lol:
     
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  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    There is a difference between fighting at your best (like 100 per cent) versus his perception that when he comes in the ring not 100 per cent.

    If you don't see the difference, what can I tell you.

    Pac sees Mayweather as the bigger fighter, therefore he can give as much blood as he wants relative to him. That's his view and he might be wrong or right, that is how he sees things.

    When fighting those welterweights, he was not so much concerned as long as he sees that he is 100 per cent in the ring. Which he believes is not going to happen with so many testing.

    Pac is a very superstitious person, as most roman catholics of spanish influence. Sometimes that belief is irrational but it is them who is fighting. Blood has so much significance to this form of roman catholicism, being a form that is very ritualistic and uses so much symbolism.
     
  11. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    What do you expect from a poster who was able to find a round to score 10-8 for JMM for outpunching Pac by a measly 9 punches.

    He scored round 8 10-8 in favor of JMM. JMM connected something like 19 punches while Pac had something like 9 or 10, and no one was even close to being knocked out.
     
  12. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can now afford the finest peds in the world. :lol: That's why.

    That and the fact that he mixes them with a-side meth, is what makes him unstoppable. :bokc
     
  13. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac was more recently quoted as saying he would take the test between rounds, if necessary. It was an obvious exaggeration, but, he was making light of something he claimed to be impossible to do within 24 days before a fight (then he goes on to give blood 18 days before the Clottey fight), when the opportunity to make the fight was presented to him. So, what happened to heavy training, superstitions, catholicism, and a size disadvantage, when he made these statements? :think
     
  14. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cause he's not a PED user, and being a PED user doesnt even guarantee you of winning.
     
  15. pound4pound

    pound4pound Goatest of All Time Full Member

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    he didn't need PEDs on those fights because they were fixed for him to win. :nut