If Manny wins this one clear, is he than the real winner in terms who better is?

Actually if you take the 1 knockdown into account, they each won 6 rounds.

 

In the 3rd fight, Juan took 8 rounds that were not even close.

 

I'm pretty much with you. I have them 1-1-1.

The thing with boxing is that official scorecards don't really matter. The true scorekeepers are the fans and that's why debates linger long after the fighters themselves have moved on.

 

I agree with you on this, it irks me when people say Pacquaio won his last two fights (pro-Pacquaio agenda) or lost his last 2 fights (anti-Pacquaio agenda), whatever way you look at it, he won 1 lost 1.


I think I had it 1-1-1 but I might try and watch them again before the 4th instalment to refresh my memory.

 

I got it the same way 1-1-1 and the majority of fans do. I see 0 reason for a 4th fight.

 

sure.

 

Pac hasn't won a fight yet

 

No ****ing way. The 3rd one was supposed to be the one where Manny had every advantage over Marquez and supposed to destroy Marquez in 4-5 rounds tops. Marquez was on top of his game when he got robbed against Norwood. Even close to 40 he's still too good for the 140-147lbers except Floyd. If Manny got humiliated in the 3rd if he can't clearly beat Marquez this time that's just plain embarrassing and clearly shows if your going to overrate Pacman then don't underrate Marquez!

 

Pac won all three fights so this fourth fight is pointless.

 

Of the three fights, Marquez's win in the third is clearly the widest, most decisive outcome. The first two were razor thin, but in three, JMM clearly won 8 rounds, possibly 9.

 

Correction, 39 years old.
1 year makes a difference.

 

Manny will not win this one clear. We should all know this by now.

 

JMM won 3 so far soz. 1st was either way due to 1st round, 2nd close but clear win, 3rd masterclass, funnily enough the more the weight and age, JMM performs better. Team Pacquiao must be praying that sooner or later weight is going to be too much, age is going to be too high for Marquez, because those two have a better chance beating JMM than the great PacMan.

 

Nah, both fighters are on a decline, Marquez imo proved he was the better fighter when both of them were at their best by winning most of the rounds in every single fight. This one is pointless.