If Marciano Had Challenged Patterson In 1958?

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Winner is??

  1. Marciano?

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  2. Patterson?

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    The problem for Rocky Marciano would have been Ingo or Eddie Machen in 1958, in order to get at Floyd Patterson,
     
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  2. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Awesome post. Thank you very much. This is the kind of content we need more of.
     
  3. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    I see Rocky losing against Patterson if he challenged 1958.

    Rocky won in title fights because he knew he was totally and absolutely in peak physical/mental condition, if he had a doubt in those departments, then he would have had chink in his own air of invincibility, confidence was everything for Rocky.

    Rocky described his secret attempt to get back in shape from 4 min 28 in below clip.

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  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime for prime ends badly for Patterson. But a comeback against a prime Floyd? Def not. Patterson on a clear UD
     
  5. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, those two in particular would be poison for the Rock.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Now imagine Rocky fighting an undefeated Eddie Machen in 1958, who was the no. 1 contender at the time or maybe running into a prime Sonny Liston, just released from prison after putting a police officer upside down in a dumpster in 1957.
     
  7. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, it would probably be a multi-knockdown affair, huh? ha ha
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    The dreaded knockdown, oh no. Lol.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

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    Someone already said it, but Marciano thought about coming back against Johanson, and just couldn't summon the fire. So, if he did come back against Patterson, it would have been strictly monetary and he would have lost the zero.
     
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  10. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some great posts on this thread. Aside from the reasons already stated, Rocky simply had no reason to fight by 1958. He was, by the standards of the day, a very wealthy man and due to his fame and huge popularity, never had to pay for a hotel room, a meal, a ticket to an event.
     
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  11. William Walker

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    I gotta pull that one out for you every now and then.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Agreed, was very interesting and informative.
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not sure id like to be Rocky, running in to sonny Liston, Richard!
    Painful.
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Well if Rocky had decided to comeback that would tell me he was at least 80% of the fighter he had once been. That is more than enough to best Patterson.
    Floyd was fast but not that elusive and his chin won't hold up. As long as Marciano didn't forget how to punch he wins by stoppage. Probably multipleknockdowns.
    It does depend on alot of unknown factors. How much Rocky has left. If he shot then forget it, that would be Floyd only route to victory.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Totally agree, that Liston long left jab, ouch.
     
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