If Marciano hung around and fought Patterson?

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  1. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Janitor, who do you think would have been the man to do it?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Whoever it was, it would likley have not been who people would have expected.

    If forced to take a stab at it, I would say Eddie Machen.
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As stated earlier, Patterson would look good for a couple of rounds, then Rocky grinds him down. Patterson never had the best of chins, this is what would fail him in the later rounds.

    A bit like Cotto-Margo 1 (without the cement)
     
  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Probably not as one sided, I mean Cotto was really raping Marg
     
  5. FastHands(beeb)

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    Thanks for the reply Janitor.

    Machen? I thought you were going to say Liston...as I believe most would! Do you really think Machen was experienced enough circa mid 1956 to defeat Marciano? How do you see it panning out?
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Nah, it would be shorter than that, Rock would be applying pressure from the start (not waiting for cement to dry) and Pattersons style suits Marciano more than Cottos did for Marg
     
  7. PetethePrince

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  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    The fight would look nothing like Cotto-Margo. :lol:
     
  9. Azzer85

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    Not looks wise, but same sort of story, Patterson looks good until Marciano wears him down
     
  10. janitor

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    How do I see it panning out?

    Marciano's back gets worse, and his training regime suffers. The sheer physical perfection that guided him to sucess, starts to slip allong with his workrate.

    He takes a title defence against the up and coming Eddie Machen, perhaps a bit later than 56. Should be a routine job, after what he did to Charles and Moore.

    In the ring he sudenly finds that he is not quite his old self. Worse he is up against a durable and cunning opponent who is taking rounds off him. As the fight progresses his corner tells him he probably needs a knockout to win. He tries to rally late, but the old magic is no longer there.

    The score cards are read out, and the winner by majority decision, and the new heavyweight champion of the world................

    Eddie Machen!
     
  11. FastHands(beeb)

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    An interesting scenario, Janitor!

    The key part perhaps is "a bit later than '56".

    Maybe The Rock could see such a scenario occuring at some point in his future and had learned from the likes of Louis that he did not want to overstay his welcome, get out out with his reputation, marbles & money intact. More power to him for doing this.

    I definitely think that Patterson in '56 is nowwhere near robust enough to do the job.
     
  12. Beatle

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    Look what Joey Maxim did to Patterson, and you'll figure out the answer.

    Cus D'Amato didn't want Floyd to fight Sonny Liston, because he knew Floyd would have trouble with a brawler, as he did against Maxim.

    Before that, D'Amato kept Floyd away from the HW division altogether, because he knew that Marciano was playing golf and was about to retire. He wanted Floyd to take the vacant title after Marciano's retirement.
     
  13. Beatle

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYY_OY8Qyg[/ame]
     
  14. Bummy Davis

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    possibly because I love Maxims blue color boxing and ruggedness I thought as the judges did that Maxim won this....I like Maxims tough stance vs Moore,Walcott but he also would have gotten steamrolled vs Marciano as would Floyd...not a question of size but horse-power and fire-power that the freak Marciano possessed
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    It's amazing how many posters are picking men who got blasted away by ingemar johansson to beat Rocky Marciano. Does anyone here seriously think johansson was on rocky's level as a puncher?

    I could see Marciano possibly losing in 1957, and definitely by 1958, but not in 1956.