If Marciano`s A Legend Then So Is Calzaghe

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  1. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Slappy is a joke.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, Jones and Hopkins were the best available - and probably not the version that Calzaghe faced. He also could have been matched with Taylor and Pavlik, both better than Lacy.
     
  3. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its unbelivable that people are suppose to like boxing on this forum ,and disrespect almost every great champion.
     
  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Altough overrall Marciano is overrated,he was truly a great fighter with his style.Calzaghe is a great fighter himself but not on the level of Marciano's greatness
     
  5. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dont talk so fast. Look at Marciano's wins over moore, louis and Walcott. Marciano rarely makes the top 10 of Heavyweights. And we are 50 years later.
     
  6. Utter1

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    The thing about rocky and Joe is that they are ALL TIME GREATS but there records suggests that they are better than they actually are.

    Both have huge question marks over there carrers....Marciano was on top for 3 years and add another year as a contdender....so 4 years as an elite fighter and if you compare that to other all time greats its not very long. His qualit of opponents isnt great but walcott, charles and moore is still impressive. You could argue that its better tha Dempsey, Holmes and Patterson reigns.

    Calazaghe has had the great luxury of being at the right place at the right time. He is an all time great but in my mind seeing the fight....he would have most likely lost to Roy Jones althought giving him a good fight and to Hopkins.

    In the end though he won....fair play.....made his money and his legend.

    His best wins (and no body argues with it) are Kessler, Lacy, Hopkins, Eubank and Jones. Now.....whilst he beat all these men....he didnt exactly dominate them.....Hopkins to me lost by a few rounds....a younger versin would have beaten him on pts an so would Jones. Eubank would be a toss up if both in there primes.....and he proved without a doubt he is better than Lacy. Kessler i think will get better so who knows.

    Both men are all time greats......clazaghe is deffo top 3 all time super-middlweight fighter......and rocky a top 15 heavy of all time....so both men have achieved greatness with out a doubt.
     
  7. DINAMITA

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    I don't rate Marciano very highly. His resume is not that good IMO.
     
  8. pugilist64

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    Who was the best to have faced Marciano then??
     
  9. pugilist64

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    Fascinating in depth critique there.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Ya going 6-0 vs Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles isnt impressive. :patsch


    Dumbass.....
     
  11. joe33

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    This is silly both were great great fighters, main problem i have of people having a guy at the rock, was what was he meant to damn well do then?, go back in time and fight them when they were younger ?

    He never ducked anyone when he was fighting and beat the lot of them, while joe it could be said and this is not all his thought maybe never faced the best when they and he was young, but hes a legend of british boxing no matter what any one says
     
  12. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    You can bet your arse the come back to that is they "were old", but hey yeah there right, rocky should have froze himself then gone back 10 years and took them on :lol:
     
  13. jaycuban

    jaycuban Cubans Do It Better ! Full Member

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    Joe will be forgotten when he retires, his only 2 wins are against 2 old guys, and in the eyes of many lost to one of them.

    So no, sorry... he decied to show balls too late, and against the wrong people.
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is, p64, but that recognition usually comes with time. Except for guys like Pep, Mayweather and Whittaker, that mantle's usually reserved for guys with the eraser.

    Marciano had additional things that guys who never put on gloves could relate to . He was an everyman/oveachiever-- gave them something to root for: He was undersized for a heavy, with short, unsculpted arms -- and both facially and physically -- looked not so much like the heavyweight champ, but a construction worker.

    He was "one of us" and did it with character and hard work, not with oceans of talent. Made us feel: anything's possible.
     
  15. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i am italian and live in the same state as arciano and I agree his resume was weak...obviously joe is a great fighter...why is it always in your face to america...I like calzaghe...relax