If Marciano Was Black???

that post is relevant to your thread.

it was about Marciano and how people perceive him.



he was making the point that Marciano fought his most deserving challengers, just because you didn't state this was so is no reason to pull a perception that it was irrelevant to this thread mcvey. It was a fair point and there is no reason to discredit it unless of course you were assuming bummy was speaking only to you which I didn't think was the case whatsoever???? I took it that he was speaking about Marciano in general :think

bummy made some FAIR points about Marciano and about other heavy weight champs that are relative to how we all perceive Marciano and your reply to him seemed THREATENED in my honest opinion, it was as if you didn't like his FAIR points, got threatened about them for whatever personal reason and then without thinking it through replied in a controlling unfair way that his points were IRRELEVANT to this thread,,,,, is that what happened mcvey?

If so that seems petty to me :think

Not trying to be offensive, speaking my peace on a very unimportant subject called boxing :bbb

by the way mcvey, great thread, you out of everyone in my opinion was interested in a honest answer to your question, unlike the other's, that's what has made this thread interesting to me, thanks dude :good

 

Well here is an idea. You go and convince the dozens of Jones Jr fans on this site that their hero DIDN'T suddenly age in only a few months aged 34 as they claim, then come back and argue with those of us who accept Archie did suddenly age rapidly approaching 40.

 

The issue with Jones Jr wasn't that he aged. It was that the big weight cut from 193lb to 173lb for Tarver severely weakened him.

In the case of Moore, he made no such cut against Marciano. Moore weighed in at 188lb.

 

Maybe you are in too much of a hurry to answer McVey's posts before you read them properly.

Plus in Moore's case the weight loss and regain was done over a mere 4 month period.

 

so you assumed that I agreed with every point that bummy was making in that large post of his that I commented was a GOOD post ???

don't do that dingbat :nono

as for the one point that you brought up, that is funny as ****, i took bummy as getting over excited about that point and simply using the word DESTROYED rather than SCHOOLED or BEAT by Hopkins, which was the point i then credited bummy as trying to make, you on the other hand Foxy, you assumed that i fell for a vision of the word DESTROYED in a specific way and then assumed i was a gullible fool because of it.

Foxy, i bet if you were to quiz me and bummy about our personal thoughts about Marciano you would find out that we are not all that CLOSE in what we feel about the Rock, that said, i liked bummys post because it was worded well and didn't have the usual STABs at others on this forum and just stuck to the points better than some other posts i have read, so i wanted to endorse that as the petty bickering between many here gets negative to have to keep reading through. If you want to assume i am gullible because of that, well that's out of my hands Foxy :bbb

 

thanks for the reply, i think its also me being over sensitive to thinking all our experts here at ESB hate each other,, when maybe its more playful then i give credit, well i hope, lol

all good :good

 

I merely picked that quote as it was the most obviously outrageous. The rest of it was just the usual nonsense, and not worth answering.

Whether or not I'm a dingbat is up for discussion, you on the other hand complimented his post. That will do for me.:rofl:rofl

 

i complimented his post because he created many points looking at Marciano hi-lighting specific positive points without getting petty as you and me have got :good

that's all Foxy, sorry for calling you a Dingbat, it was uncalled for

 

So Moore had an excuse for being drained against Olsen but he didn't cut for Marciano so he was in fine shape for Marciano.. At 188...

The regain helped Moore...not hurt him.

Jones was drained against tarver because he weighed 175...

 

If anyone is rooting for a fighter based on the fact that they share the same skin colour or because they perceive them to be of the same "race", then that is obviously racial prejudice or racial favouritism.
That's not even debatable. It is simply true by definition.

To say that another prejudice or bias (jinjoism/nationalism/patriotism etc.) would override it in many cases is besides the point.

There's nothing "natural" about it.