If Marciano Was Black???

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  1. thistle1

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    racial tensions in America were only terrible and extreme because America led the way in the New changing world, leaders in development, industry and of course media exposure... the atrocities of black America became international news.

    the problem however is worldwide and long rooted in history, but the severe criminality of it as we have come to know it, is very much a British design. a horrible and wicked history of global exploitation and atrocities including the way this vile satanic state abused, oppressed and executed her very own people too.

    and in recent times ALL her ******* & orphaned children have come searching for Mother England. and it is a right **** hole, of social and cultural deprivation.

    but it is also Karma, Social Justice, God's Judgement, whatever you wish to call it. But Britain does deserve what she has become.

    the U.S and other places will and are 'fall- owing too.
     
  2. Foxy 01

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    The Somersett's case in 1772, which emancipated a slave in England, helped launch the British movement to abolish slavery. Though anti-slavery sentiments were widespread by the late 18th century, the colonies and emerging nations that used slave labor continued to do so: French, English and Portuguese territories in the West Indies; South America; and the Southern United States.
    After the American Revolution established the United States, northern states, beginning with Pennsylvania in 1780, passed legislation during the next two decades abolishing slavery, sometimes by gradual emancipation. Massachusetts ratified a constitution that declared all men equal; freedom suits challenging slavery based on this principle brought an end to slavery in the state. In other states, such as Virginia, similar declarations of rights were interpreted by the courts as not applicable to Africans. During the following decades, the abolitionist movement grew in northern states, and Congress regulated the expansion of slavery in new states admitted to the union. David Brion Davis argues that the main driving force was a new moral consciousness, with an intellectual assist from the Enlightenment, and a powerful impulse from religious Quakers and evangelicals. Christian evangelicals identified slave ownership and complicity as a grave sin – one that had to be purged from the world.

    Unfortunately the horrible truth is supply and demand dictates. Even after the abolition of slavery in Britain demand was still there in America.
     
  3. Foxy 01

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    Have you ever considered using your Koran as ass wipe? If people want Islamic teaching, I'm sure most of them have enough intelligence to seek out a mosque.
     
  4. Cafe

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    I don't see Marciano being as universally loved as some of the black champions or overrated at all, in fact I sometimes think he's underrated. Most people seem to love Dempsey more than Marciano for some reason.
     
  5. burt bienstock

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    If the Japanese hadn't bombed Pearl Harbor ?
    If the mugger hadn't ****d my wife, I wouldn't press charges?
    If Germany hadn't declared war on Britain and France ?
    Do U know how damn silly your reasoning is ???
    The damn truth is the USA did enter the WAR though they were 3000 miles from Europe, and Winston Churchill rightfully beseeched FDR for ships and arms and praying that America would sooner rather than later align themselves with Britain and France...Sorry, that America the country you love to berate
    did the right thing in WW2...Tell me sir which country do you truly admire ? And if so why not join it ?...
     
  6. burt bienstock

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    Thistle, now that you posted how bad England is, what country do you admire in this imperfect globe, and why not emigrate their ???
     
  7. burt bienstock

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    These damn haters of America and Britain are so devoid of logic and reasoning
    that they cannot or will not answer a simple question. If they find the USA and Britain so freakin evil and abhorrent, WHY don't they simply emigrate to the country that is superior to these two great nations ? If I detest my neighborhood so much I would leave that neighborhood to go to my
    "superior" neighborhood or nation... But they DON"T, WHY NOT ? The answer
    is in this flawed world composed of human beings there is NO PARADISE, so we do the best we can to make it better...That is practical people I'm talking about, not whiners...
     
  8. Cafe

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    I don't necessarily disagree with you but you make it sound like moving countries is a trivial matter, it's not that easy, you can't help where you are born.
     
  9. thistle1

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    BB it's not a feeling about the UK, I live here and love it.

    I also lived and travelled throughout North America and love it...

    and I LOVE Europe, all beautiful free democratic places, that I/we are Blessed to live in. I am with you Totally.

    what I am saying is just a simply recognition of the truth about the British built west and her global extension over the centuries.

    she was and still is a ***** and we all are paying for these atrocities... this is also not necessarily a bad thing, because what comes out of it in the end will be truth and equality.

    God's directive, not mine, yours, nor anyone else's.
     
  10. edward morbius

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    "Most people seem to love Dempsey more than Marciano for some reason."

    He was colorful.

    Dempsey was a star type.

    Marciano was an average Joe type.

    I am talking about outside the ring.

    You see this in other sports in America. Joe Namath versus let's say Otto Graham in football. Stan Musial versus Joe DiMaggio in baseball.
     
  11. burt bienstock

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    Café, you must surely know the point I am making...Namely that not only will they not relocate to a "better" country, they CAN NOT name a better country to go to.... If the USA is so bad as these holier than thou critics pretend it to be why is there not a rush for millions of Americans to flock to other country's ? And why are multitudes of folks from other nations risking their lives hoping to get to the USA by any means necessary ? In our hearts of hearts we KNOW the answer...
    And yes moving countries is NOT a trivial matter, but so is
    trying to make a perfect nation with Three Hundred Million citizens of diverse WANTS AND DESIRES a trivial matter...
     
  12. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay,

    I didn't really understand your initial post because I am not familiar with the incident(s) you are mentioning.

    But I am old enough to remember the lynchings, the dogs sicked on children, the fire hoses, bombings, assassinations--on and on

    I thought you were referring to a drunk going after a famous boxer. That sort of thing has always happened to white and black champions.

    Sorry for misunderstanding your point.
     
  13. The Mongoose

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  14. Foxy 01

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    Do you actually KNOW anything.

    Hitler didn't declare war on Britain EVER. After he invaded Poland, Britain declared war on him.

    Due to you not even being aware of that FACT I will ignore the rest of your nonsense except to say I do live in a country I admire ( Spain ) though I reserve the right to be English.
     
  15. red cobra

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    It sure has since the infusion of all this political ****!!
     
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