If Marciano Was Such A Dynamite Puncher?

Joe Louis's power carried well to the big guys and Walcott stated Rocky was the harder puncher.

 

Because its not a cold one punch knockout. Spinks had just been rocked and dropped from a uppercut/body punch combination.

If we are counting that we are going to have to count Marciano's KO of Charles, Louis, and several others. Where he put them down for the count with one punch after having just previously hurt/dropped them.

 

If Marciano doesn't have one punch KO power, than nobody had one punch KO power.

 

But difference. Marciano had been fighting with those guys for many rounds. Tyson KO'd Spinks in 91 seconds and the first knockdown was due to a body shot, resulting in Spinks rising without appearing to be hadly hurt. The second shot was a beautiful uppercut with put him flat on his back.. It counts in my book.

 

And that's all to do with how they both fought, don't you think if Rocky had shot out of the blocks in the 1st round and landed his hard right on Walcott the effect would have been less devastating, it's about the style not the power!

 

Even than. We still just have a case of Spinks/Botha vs Walcott/Layne/Matthews. I'm not convinced there is a more convincing argument for Tyson. Both guys had one punch power at the end of the day.

 

His power should not be questioned.

Power is only one of a number of components that makes up a knockout artist, and this was the principal one in what he was doing.

Compare his filmed knockouts to those of other great heavyweight finishers, he doesn’t just stop them he numbs them.

The damage that he was inflicting on his opponents, was as severe as can be seen in any heavyweight champion.

 

That had more to do with Tyson having better finishing methodology, than better power.

 

I think it's important to realize just how difficult it is to score a one or two-punch knockout against rated opposition.

Who has done it? Off the top of my head:

Tyson, 4: Spinks, The Truth Williams, Tubbs, Botha. Very impressive. I refuse to include Seldon.
Foreman, 1: Moorer.
Louis: I might have to re-check the footage, I'm thinking Braddock but probably there are more.
Dempsey: Few of his top fights were filmed. Some say Fulton, others say it was a many-punch combo. Needless to say he finished him early. So at least one.
Frazier, 1: Foster. If I recall correctly, Ellis got up but was already severely rattled.
Liston: Westphal is the only one I know of, but he wasn't rated I'm sure.
Ali, 1: Liston II. Dubious circumstances, though.
Holmes, 1: Weaver.
Lewis, 3: Botha, Rahman, Tyson. If Weaver was rated (which I doubt), then it's 4.
Wlad, 3: Chambers, Brock, Austin. Byrd II arguably.
Marciano, 3: Matthews, Walcott, Layne.

So, Tyson tops it with 4 one/two punch KOs. Other giant punchers have 3 at most, which includes Marciano.

You can rip into the Marciano victims all you want, but this is easy play and can be applied to any of the fellas on the receiving end of the above list KOs.

At the end of the day, he has the highest knockout percentage in history against rated opponents, in title defenses, against hall-of-famers and overall (of heavyweight champions). And we see that he's at the top in terms of one- or two-punch KOs as well.

I don't really see how one can reasonably not rank him among the very best punchers, especially with respect to his time, against his field - which is no more than fair.

 

You can't count Spinks as he was already knocked down and hurt prior to the knockout.

I'll give you one back though, Henry Tillman.

 

If you are having to use Joe Louis' power as a means to try discredit Marciano's power you are actually (clearly accidentally!) paying Marciano quite a compliment & imo destroying your own argument at the same time.

 

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