If Marciano went 49-0 in Ali's Era

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012.


Page 1 of 2
  1. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    Say he did in a time period similar to Frazier. Started in around 66, retired as undefeated champ (in place of Ali, so there would be no Ali fight, but he would have fought up to around 73, allowing for a Foreman fight).

    Would you rank him as the GOAT?
     
    manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012
    manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012
    #1
  2. Ali_

    Ali_ Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,952
    1
    Apr 27, 2012
    I don't always put forth hypothetical questions
    But when I do
    I like them to be with Marciano beating Ali's competition!
     
    Ali_, Jun 26, 2012
    Ali_, Jun 26, 2012
    #2
  3. El-Mafioso

    El-Mafioso Member Full Member

    156
    0
    May 11, 2012
    his biggest opponent would be Sonny Liston and George Foreman
     
    El-Mafioso, Jun 26, 2012
    El-Mafioso, Jun 26, 2012
    #3
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

    18,318
    57
    Dec 26, 2009
    I don't think Rocky could realistically beat a Peak Foreman.
     
    Kalasinn, Jun 26, 2012
    Kalasinn, Jun 26, 2012
    #4
  5. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    He'd be fighting a well past prime Sonny Liston. Starting in 66. So he'd potentially have the likes of Zora Folley, Cleveland Williams, Floyd Patterson, Henry Cooper, Ernie Terrell, Karl Mildenberg, Jerry Quarry, Oscar Bonavena, Jimmy Ellis, Buster Mathis, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton and George Foreman.

    With some filler on his way up of course. That kind of list of names.
     
    manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012
    manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012
    #5
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    42,548
    3,754
    May 4, 2012
    Obviously.
     
    turbotime, Jun 26, 2012
    turbotime, Jun 26, 2012
    #6
  7. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

    14,701
    16
    Feb 23, 2012
    Ali didn't go undefeated in Ali's era and he's still widely viewed as the GOAT.
     
    Hands of Iron, Jun 26, 2012
    Hands of Iron, Jun 26, 2012
    #7
  8. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

    3,255
    134
    Feb 6, 2009
    I'll wait for a few more replies, then I'll go into detail about my point/agenda.
     
    manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012
    manbearpig, Jun 26, 2012
    #8
  9. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

    7,766
    93
    Apr 6, 2007
    I think if Marciano went 49-0 in six fights between Liston, Frazier and Foreman at his size and with that style, plus the rest, I'd have to rate him above Harry Greb.
     
    Manassa, Jun 26, 2012
    Manassa, Jun 26, 2012
    #9
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,790
    5,155
    Aug 19, 2010
    Yes. At HW.....Actually he would be top 5 p4p clearly to me I think.....
     
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Jun 26, 2012
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Jun 26, 2012
    #10
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    16,210
    15,233
    Jun 9, 2007
    He would be lucky to be a 50/50 fighter in Ali's era.
     
    robert ungurean, Jun 26, 2012
    robert ungurean, Jun 26, 2012
    #11
  12. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,077
    3,730
    Sep 14, 2005

    :lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

    Jack Dempsey would never see the crown again had he fought after 1937 :good
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 26, 2012
    SuzieQ49, Jun 26, 2012
    #12
  13. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,129
    27
    Jul 24, 2004
    The quest is moot because he wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of going 49-0 then. The heavyweights were bigger and better in Ali's era.
     
    Sister Sledge, Jun 26, 2012
    Sister Sledge, Jun 26, 2012
    #13
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    27,674
    7,653
    Dec 31, 2009
    Some were bigger but better? Was cooper better than rex layne? Was mildenburger better than kid mathews? Doug jones better than lastarza? Take the big guys, outside of (old) Liston you only have Williams and Terell . Who are Williams and terell in A.T.G terms? The Liston Ali fought was the only 50-50 fight out there for Marciano.

    Rocky was only ever going to last 4 years at the top in any era. If he starts in the cassius clay years then that conveniently takes Rocky out of circulation by the 1970s. Even so, those 1970s contenders are flattered by an older Ali and Frazier.
     
    choklab, Jun 27, 2012
    choklab, Jun 27, 2012
    #14
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,108
    8,542
    Jul 17, 2009

    Both would beat Rocky,imo.
     
    Stevie G, Jun 27, 2012
    Stevie G, Jun 27, 2012
    #15
Page 1 of 2