If Margarito beats Mosley, does he take over the vacancy as "THE" welterweight champ?

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  1. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WRONG

    You don't get credit for accomplishments of a fighter AFTER you beat him.
    By that logic Quintana beat PW, Cotto beat Quintana, Margo beat Cotto therefore Margo is the champ.

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    How I see it:

    Margo is #1
    PW #2
    Cotto #3

    Why is Margo #1? He beat the previous #1!!!!

    But no champ until #1 and #2 fight.
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He's fighting for a title at 154,I doubt that is a stay busy fight.And there are other fighters than Margarito at WW.I once read that he will clean up 47,54 and 60,fighting one guy doesn't do that.
     
  3. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    margo ko 2 champs so acording to the bias of boxing i mean bible of boxing #1 and#2 should figth then thats their linar champ
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    ok then bro...

    keep reading comic books :rofl :rofl :rofl

    so mayorga is the man at 154...i mean, he did beat vernon twice, and vernon never avenged his loss, and now the viper is the man again....


    RICARDO MAYORGA IS THE MAN AT 154 STILL :happy :happy
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I know what you are saying but that would make more since if Mayorga beat him at 154 :lol:
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Mosley hasn't done anything special since losing to Forrest. His best win since then was over Collazo and that was after Hatton did it.


    And his most recent fight at 147 was a loss to Cotto who Margo just beat.

    Bad choice by Margo IMO. I know he wants money but PW was there for the taking.
     
  7. moneymayweather

    moneymayweather Active Member Full Member

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    no the difference is PW went out and avenged his loss, he beat the only person to beat him... PW has beat everyone put in front of him..

    However Margarito hasn't avenged one of his 5 losses yet..
     
  8. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Does not matter... because you don't avenge your loses you can't accomplish anything?

    You here that BHOP!!!
     
  9. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    PBf retired.
    Williams moving up.
    Margo beat Cotto.
    I think that makes Margarito the champ.
     
  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Hatton didn't really do it.The judges did
     
  11. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    the thread's OP question has merit...
    as Margarito is #1, Williams is #2, Cotto is #3 and Mosley is #4...(these are ranking according to Ring, not mine)
    According to the Ring rules in order for a new lineal champion to be crowned the #1 fighter has to fight the #2 guy or the #3 guys is the pundits feel #2 and #3 are of equivalent difficulty.
    The question then becomes, at what point is Williams no longer considered in the running as the #2 man in the WW division? So, what are the rules regarding a fighter vacating a weight division according to Ring(since Calzaghe was still long time SMW Champion until he fought RJJ and Hatton remained LWW Champion despite his loss to Mayweather at WW)?

    It appears Williams is not yet out of the ratings at WW and therefore going to block Margarito's chances of being named Ring WW Champion even if Margarito beats Mosley. I wouldn't give it to Margo even if he beat Mosley and then Cotto as long as Williams remains, somehow, in the division.
     
  12. moneymayweather

    moneymayweather Active Member Full Member

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    you can't proclaim yourself top of the division when there is a guy in the division that beat you by UD... and then you turned town a rematch with him which would also be a career high payday..
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol: Oh here come the excuses.

    It was close, Hatton won. Just cause a fight is close doesn't mean the loser should of won.


    That still doesn't change the fact that thats Mosleys best win since losing to Forrest. And Mosley hasn't won at 147 in over a year and a half.
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's not an excuse as I agree with the other things.It's just that Collazo won that fight.And anyway Mosley is still a top dog.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Mosley is still a top dog when his best win is over Collazo? :lol::lol::lol::lol:


    Mosley lost to Cotto and will have been inactive for over a year from 147 by the time he fought Cotto.

    :rofl


    Paul Williams gave him the offer and Margo blatently ducked him.