If Margarito was using illegal wraps...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, May 15, 2010.


  1. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can say it as many times as you want. Ironically the one supporitng the cheater are mexican. coincidence or not? that is the question lol
     
  2. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know why people ignore this.
     
  3. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't do anything wrong, he just got suspended and still is not allow to fight in the states. I just have one question who's training this guy now? Is it the same trainer:D If I was Antonio i'll talk to Manny to put a lawsuit against Cali for defaming his character, since he didn't do anything wrong and there is proof he didn't do anything.:patsch
     
  4. samita

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    cheated against who? he never got to, he was caught attempting.
    How do you know he cheated against cotto or cintron? cotto got busted up in every single big fight he's been in, he gets cut and bloodied up every single fight. You know margarito landed more punches on him than anyone else, right? hence, his face got more ****ed up than it usually gets.

    As someone else mentioned pacman must've had dynamite in his gloves cause he turned cotto into another creature.

    I'm not disputing something happened before the Mosley fight, but I just find it mysterious how some are so sure he cheated against cotto without any proof.

    And get off your high horse and save me the bull****. Someone cheating in a fight didn't stop people from supporting known cheaters and this is evident if you scroll through threads in here. You gonna say "but oh loading gloves isn't like juicing", and I'll say he never got to use these "loaded" gloves unlike those juicers who already been proven to have roided for fights, and no they didn't find bricks in marg's gloves.

    And I'm not mexican, I just enjoy watching marg's fights and tired of the double standard.
     
  5. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Attempting is still a crime isn't it... It's hard to believe a guy at that age suddenly decided to attempt to do wrong... Just suddenly at that age, just suddenly at that age. once just suddenly just for that fight. Has anyone ask him why just for Mosley? Who is training him by the way as of now?
     
  6. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Theres not even evidence Margarito knew what was in wraps. I read he held up his other hand when Naazim found the stuff in one hand and told him to look there.

    As for before Mosley. I have said this time and again, so read slowly.

    IF Margarito had the illegal inserts for Cotto. And he knew this. Why would he take his gloves off after the fight and wander around happy as larry shaking peoples hands, lifting his hands and supposedly rock hard wraps in the air?

    Ask yourself does it make sense? For a guy with illegal wraps that he knew were illegal. To IMMEDIATLEY expose them to EVERYONE both in the ring and watching on TV?

    The answer is no it doesnt at all.

    Even IF Margarito had illegal inserts in the wraps against Cotto or any other fight before Mosley, i find it extremely hard to find evidence that he would have known about this simply judging on his above mentioned behaviour.

    Thus, you cant genuinely say things like "he cheated" "why would he try to cheat". As far as i can see with the evidence at hand, if any cheating was done it was done by Capetillo.
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Because it was the knuckle pad not the wraps. You cant see the pad, why do you think Margarito offered his hand up for Nazim?

    Cause they had to open it.
     
  8. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And also im NOT Mexican. I just choose not to follow the media and others influenced by it that Mragraito was a stonewall cheater. If evidence was available to ANY commision, that allowed them to suspend Margarito for life, they would have done it by now. There isnt enough evidence, and the evidence there is (traces of sulfur, traces of calcium??) is not enough to convict him.
     
  9. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but i thought the whole point people are making is that the substance was something that hardened as a fight wore on?

    If this is the case then why would Margarito walk around with his hardened wraps at the end of a fight?
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    The pads were already hard. As stated in the hearing papers under findings of facts.

    Like I said, it was the knuckle pad that's INSIDE the wrap.

    You have to open the wrap to see the knuckle pad.
     
  11. Antwuan Maxx

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  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take your points on the knuckle pad being inside the wrap. Im sure Mosley and a few others claimed the substance was a soft white substance that hardened as the fight went on?

    If the wraps were hard already, why did Margarito offer his hand up to Naazim? To confirm that he was cheating?

    If the wraps were hard before his fights, why did only Naazim spot this? Out of 40 odd opponents, no other trainer or commision could find it?

    Kizer stated that the gauze for the Cotto fight was provided for by the commision, how did they manage to get the inserts in for that fight?

    Are Margarito's wraps supposed to have been harder than usual after his fights?
    If so, why did no-one spot this?
    If not so, why is this even being discussed?

    My point is, there is evidence that shows there was something illegal in Margarito's wraps/knuckel pad etc. However, there is no evidence, in fact there is much evidence to the contrary, that suggests Margarito knew nothing about this.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    That's what the forum was saying, I don't remember anyone in the commission saying that.

    Possibly because he thought by offering his hand up Nazim wouldn't think twice about it.



    The commission was about to sign off on the wraps. gauze is white, the substance was white, probably no one really saw a difference.

    Who knows? They could of had their special mix of their plaster like substance on hand.

    Because you keep saying wraps and it was the pads. The wrap itself is going to feel and look fine.

    Margarito's playing the dumb card.

    Good for him.

    He's still a cheat.
     
  15. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    why, cause it's all true and doesn't fit your agenda