If Margarito was using illegal wraps...

Says the guy who said this..

 

This should close the thread down!

 

cuz pac landed more power shots on miguel's face than margarito did:nut

 

Attempting to load your wraps once is a ****ing disgrace. Margarito's ***** ass should have never been allowed to step in a ring again.

 

Nobody's suggesting he used them throughout his career.

If he only started with the Cotto fight, for example, then of course it wouldn't affect Williams.

 

Offering your hand to a trainer who suspects you of cheating is not the behaviour of a cheater, not in my opinion anyway.

The use of the word could, is all i need to ignore that point. This is what irks me when people say Margarito cheated in previous fights. There is no evidence at all.

I understand the illegal inserts were in the knuckle pad. You have told me this several times in the discussion!
My point is: Would the hardness of the knucklepad inserts have made his wraps seem harder or denser overall? If they had the effect people say they did then yes they would.
However, not one person mentioned this after his previous fights to Mosley, which, along with Margarito parading around with doctored knucklepads under his wraps, leads me to the belief that there is nothing wrong with his previous handwrappings.

If Margarito's wraps felt fine, if there was no difference in the feeling of them in terms of hardness, weight, then how did they affect any of his fights?


"Margarito's playing the dumbcard"- Your opinion. He could well be playing the honesty card. Or even the i dont know what the **** is going on card. No one knows what cards he is playing, so forgive me for not judging guilty when there is no eveidence to do so. Law states you are innocent until proven guilty.
I dont think Margarito/Capetillo or any of those in that team are seriously capable of thwarting every boxing commisison and trainer they faced. I certainly dont think they are able to mastermind getting away with it when up for prosecution against top lawyers. The simple fact is the commision found a substance that was "illegal" enough for a 1 year suspension.

Until they release other evidence, thats all they have and it's not enough to get Margarito out of a boxing ring and keep him out.

 

you can tell how many pwople in here never actualy boxed by their responses. if someone had even a miniscule advantage against u in boxing u would make a huge claim if u were actually a boxer. its all good tho he will go down as a cheater and rightfully so

 

Unless your personally involved with Margarito or anyone who has faced him, it doesnt matter, you can have your opinion.

In what way would having been a boxer or not affect your viewing of the evidence provided in this case?

I have sparred and had my face marked up before, and yes if the guy i sparred had plaster or soemthing in there i would be disgusted. But seeing as Margarito didnt come to my gym and personally butcher me, i can view this case in whatever way i wish to, based on the evidence available to me and my beliefs.

My belief is that things certainly arent as black and white as some claim.

 

Or that's what he was hoping. By offering his hand, either Nazim declines because why would he offer his hand? Or He accepts and plays the dumb card.

Win Win for Margo.

There is no evidence, but to say that his whole career doesn't deserve to be in question is dumb as well.

How could one tell? You wouldn't notice a difference of look, possibly only feel, and who feels a fighters knuckles after the fight? The commission signed off on the wraps before hand, so whats the point of checking after?

Plus, when you shake someones hand as well, you don't feel their knuckle.

If Margarito's wraps felt fine, if there was no difference in the feeling of them in terms of hardness, weight, then how did they affect any of his fights?

You are right, and the commission found him guilty.

They found it enough to revoke his license for a year and have him attempt to get a license again. There was never any guarantee that he'd be able to fight again, only that he would be able to attempt to get a license in the states.

Two commissions so far disagree with this. Texas and California who have both denied him licenses thus far.

He can fight in mexico, let him. He's a cheater and he blamed it on Capetillo so he could save face.

 

Your points are all more than acceptable to me. My view is different. It will continue to be so.

Im off to watch the Kevin Mitchell fight, enjoyed the discussion :good

 

Me too.

:good

 

Didn't Margo come in to a gym before this fight, and beat the hell out of some contender who said that Margos gloves felt like bricks? Actually, this guy had to have surgery. Sounds fishy being that almost all pros spar in 18's, Head gear, and the fact that Margo is an accumulation puncher.

 

Yea he broke his orbital bone if I remember correctly.

 

ill agree to disagree but he was suspended for a reason by the comission.