If Margarito's legacy is tarnished, why isn't Trinidad's?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BITCH ASS, Jan 27, 2009.


  1. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    He was the first one to ever knockout Mayorga, and in the Winky and Hopkins fights he never really hit them with anything big.
    How do you know he's power was gone? You're just a Tito hater.
     
  2. $.02

    $.02 Undisputed Heavyweight Full Member

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    They both will get a pass. SAD BUT RUE.
     
  3. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't hate Tito, but I think all the available evidence points to his gloves being loaded to the max. He almost decapitates Vargas and knocks him on his ass in the first few seconds of the first round and beats Joppy like he's hitting him with a baseball bat, but he can't make Bernard or Winky flinch. Vargas said his shots felt like he was getting hit with bricks.

    Something wrong with this picture.
     
  4. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    :patsch He easily hit both Vargas and Joppy with bombs as they were dumb enough to stand toe to toe, he couldn't miss even though he was loading up, When did he ever hit Winky flush? How many times did he catch Bernard? Did he even get a glove on RJJ's face? The difference is RJJ, Winky, and Bhops all respected and avoided his power.

    Mayo who had never been hurt in his career and took monster shots from Forrest (the same guy who almost KTFO Mosley)didn't respect tito's power and hasn't been the same since.
     
  5. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    When has clinching been unfair?
     
  6. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    No, excessive holding is illegal. If clinching was illegal and resulted in a oint reduction, you would see guys like Ricky losing fights 117 - 20
     
  7. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    I guess you must not know your boxing rules. Refs understand that clinching will eventually happen when 2 fighters come together. If clinching was illegal, dont you think there would be a warning after the very first clinch in a fight? If clinching was illegal, fighters like Ruiz would get DQ'd in the first round.

    Clinching is a technique used to slow a fighter down, to disrupt a fighters momentum, or to break a fighters rhythm.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Now you look at the first video and you tell me who would you wanna be, the guy who does or does not clinch?
     
  9. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Well I guess you and I are going to have 2 different outlooks on this. You see clinching as illegal, but because I see it so much and 98% of the time it goes without resulting in a point reduction, I see it as being a technique and a part of boxing. But I'm fine with clinching and I look at it as a technique. Yes, its a disadvantage for the more aggressive boxer, but boxing isn't all about aggressiveness, its about being smart. But anyways, ESB is dead right now, so I'll catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.
     
  10. YOUNG*LORD

    YOUNG*LORD Carlosv1968 is your daddy Full Member

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    Wrong Freddy...what Tito did is not illegal everywhere. In NY it apparenty goes against the rules. They said he used extra gauze and taped over the knuckles...not that it was concrete. Also Bhop stated after the fight that it was just another mind game to get into Tito's head. Margo used an object under his wraps...totally different! He had either plastic or something similar to it...and it fell to the floor and bagged. I know you want to make light of what Margo did, but don't try to compare the 2...Margo could've killed someone in the ring with those loaded glove.
     
  11. YOUNG*LORD

    YOUNG*LORD Carlosv1968 is your daddy Full Member

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    He fought natural bigger guys after Vargas you ****ing dimwit. Bhop made pavlik...who most consider pretty damn strong, look weak...also he did the same to tarver and they all way bigger than Trinidad...so what's your point? Use your ****ing brain and try thinking before typing...dumbass:patsch
     
  12. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Hero...

    Man, you got to chill. When did this hero worshippin man love type of **** get mixed up into the conversation?

    I'm just tryin to be objective. I don't suffer from some borderline homosexual or in the least childish favoritism of a particular fighter nor hatred of a guy who is in the mix for our personal entertainment. That **** is gay.

    You don't see the double standard in all this ****?

    But I got you. You don't really hide it either, so it's not like it's difficult to call out.

    You just got this internal hatred for everything that doesn't mold what you think fits with your personal opinions, especially regarding what you seem to claim as cultural aspects, in other words ethnocentricsm, but at the same time excludes about everybody else because of your personal predjudices spawned by your ideas.

    How you gonna give a mother ****er some respect one week, and then show him disrespect the next?

    That's two faced.

    And that's weak, but ****, if you wanna be that way and do things in contrast to what is know that should be done, then do it.

    But at least try and be partison. Try and be fair.

    Damn...

    Ya'll mother ****ers just don't get the point. The point is if my intent is the same, it doesn't matter how I carry it out.

    If a kill a mother ****er with a gun, is it any different than using a knife?
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :rofl
    come on bro...i would rather take one in the face from margo than 4 in the nuts from tito...


    tito cheated too bro, accept it.....
    just cause he used what was legal, dont make it any better...so if tito would've made a bat out of gauze and tape, it would've been acceptable...:huh
     
  14. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still pissed about Tito ruining El Feroz Freddy??:think
     
  15. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    See the difference above.