If Martinez had beaten Cotto..?

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  1. boxingfan55

    boxingfan55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would he have fought GGG?

    I think that he probably wouldn't have retired considering he still hasn't despite getting wrecked by Cotto.

    Would he have fought GGG if he beat Cotto or would he have chased a Canelo fight?

    Personally, I don't think he would have fought GGG.

    Additionally, I don't think that fans would brand Martinez a ducker even if he didn't fight GGG.

    Personally, I think the fans are being overly critical of Cotto.

    Bonus Question: Who wins Martinez at 100% or GGG?

    I think GGG woulda smashed him at any point in his career.
     
  2. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah
    Martinez will duck him
     
  3. IntentionalButt

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    Of course, for the money.

    He only really fought Cotto for the money; he knew he didn't have it anymore.
     
  4. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe he would have Martinez isn't the type of guy who would duck anybody.
     
  5. boxingfan55

    boxingfan55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah. Martinez had already "ducked" him for some time and the same fans that are currently shitting all over Cotto were giving him a pass.
     
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    boxingfan55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If that was the case he should have fought GGG instead of Cotto in the first place.

    I understand that Martinez took the Cotto fight because that was where the money is. I wouldn't necessarily call that a duck. But Cotto wants Canelo because of the money and everyone is calling that a duck.

    I just think its a double standard.
     
  7. boxingfan55

    boxingfan55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think so? The way he talked **** before the fight made me think he definitely thought he could win. It could of course all be part of selling the fight. I just thought that Martinez thought he would win easily simply because he was the bigger man. I think he failed to realize that Cotto is in a skill level or two above him.
     
  8. killerD

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    when did Martinez ducked ggg?you do know that Martinez was out over a year from april 2013 to june 2014 with a knee injury that required surgery.dont tell me Martinez should have fought ggg as his first fight back after knee surgery because that would be pretty stupid.
     
  9. boxingfan55

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    Why fight Cotto in a PPV fight fresh off an injury then?

    Thats more stupid and unfair to the fans shelling out to see him on PPV
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    Nah, he fooled me too, but looking at his legs even from the first bell, he suckered everyone. It was a sales pitch.
     
  11. killerD

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    again Martinez was coming back from an injury that's how boxing works you don't come back from a serious injury to fight the toughest opponent out there in your first fight back.you need that first fight to shake some of the rust off.cotto is a much easier fight than ggg.
     
  12. killerD

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    No one knew what Martinez would look like.everyone just assumed that he was 100 percent and picked Martinez to destroy cotto.again cotto was seen as a tune up for Martinez's first fight back.turns out Sergio Martinez was beyond shot.
     
  13. boxingfan55

    boxingfan55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True. I wasn't saying that Cotto was a bigger threat than GGG. I definitely think that GGG presented the bigger threat to Martinez. But the reason I said it was stupider is because fighting Cotto was a bigger stage. Had he won. He would be setting himself up for other much bigger PPV fights. That Cotto fight was time to cultivate all the fruits of his labor during his career and potentially become a PPV fighter and make some serious cash. If he was rusty he should have simply fought another one of his "mandatory" joke fights. Personally, I might agree with IntentionalButt and think that he knew it was over for him and was simply cashing out against Cotto.
     
  14. boxingfan55

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    First of all, Martinez must have known what condition he was in. If he knew he was shot to hell, he fooled the boxing fans and duped them out of their cash. Completely shameful, if that was the case.

    Second you couldn't possibly believe that Cotto was a tune up fight. Thats preposterous.
     
  15. boxingfan55

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    You're probably right.