If Mayweather and Calzaghe retire undefeated...

If plenty of guys are being ranked ahead of them despite not being undefeated, wouldn't that prove that there isn't an overemphasis on undefeated records? I think people are not fooled by a fighter being undefeated.

 

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No,it would just prove that this era fighters avoided big challenges cuz there is a saying,no fighter retires undefeated.Don't know about Calzaghe but Jose Luis Castillo sure laughs at home when he hears Floyd is undefeated

 

People look to protect their undefeated records until they can land the big fights. Any fighter will be willng to put their "0" at risk for the right price. What they're reluctant to do is put their "0" at risk against a tough fighter that is not highly rated.

 

Yeah,yeah say what you wan't,that is available for Marciano too cuz he died before he could fight again I think.Anyway I think actually Evander said that a few years back,after a loss probably

 

Anyway that guy was not human,I tell his head was stone.Most people go to sleep in Superman PJ's,Superman went to sleep in Marciano PJ's

 

All to do with technique. His chin isn't as good as someone like McCall's. Zakman will confirm this as ESB's resident chin-checker.

 

It's only bad apples that consistently has people ranked above these two fighters.

Seriously, I don't even believe Pacquaio deserves to be P4P #1 - several losses, a very dodgy win vs Marquez and he won't rematch him.

Closest Calzaghe got to a loss was a clear victory (80% of press, 85% of people polled) against Bernard Hopkins.

Floyd had a dodgy win over JLC, but at least he rematched and then beat him up in their second fight.

For me, 20 title defenses, retiring in the vicinity of 46-0 will see Calzaghe rated as one of the very best of this generation, hell, people outside America already see it that way anyway.

 

You make a good point

 

Calzaghe vs Reid wasn't close. There was one judge who was completely off centre, how about you go back and review the fight? You know, the fight that Calzaghe was an underdog in.

Calzaghe vs Hopkins was close, but a clear victory for Calzaghe, as I stated above, it's not like this was a robbery, hell, any other decision and it would have been.

Floyd vs JLC? Yes, dodgy, but as mentioned above, he went back and kicked his ass.

 

I really think this means they are just the most fortunate guys to ever fight. So many greats from the 70s and 80s have lost. I think those fighters that create the most memorable fights in history deserve the most respect in this sport. I'm still mad for paying $60 for the PBF-Hoya fight, I'm mad at both of those guys.

 

Being undefeated doesn't mean they are greater then the ones who aren't undefeted(ATG's in history).Hell HOFer Tommy Loughran had 30 losses

 

No. Their "0's" only impresses people who don't know much about boxing.