If Mayweather and Canelo fought a trilogy at 154 . . .

If Mayweather and Canelo would have rematched and fought a trilogy in 2014 at 154, what would have happened in fights #2 and #3.

Depending on when and at what weight these two fight could determine who the majority think would win. In 2019, for example, at Full Middleweight, I'm guessing that most would think Canelo would win.

However on the other side of that, in 2013 Canelo was less than his best having to make 152 but was still very competitive a lot more competitive than most of Floyd's opponents. I think most would agree that back in 2013, at 154 Canelo would have been a better version of himself and would have had more success vs Floyd and may have won more rounds if he wasn't so drained. As to how much more success Canelo would have had, we'll never know for sure, but most say that Canelo became a better fighter since he lost to Floyd and he hasn't lost since.

So my question is this, lets say it played out exactly how it did in 2013, same decision, but lets say instead of CJ Ross getting mocked, if it would have just been seen as a close fight that most thought Floyd won. Then there would have been grounds for a rematch right? I mean most MD decisions between two then-undefeated fighters would warrant a rematch.

So if lets say Canelo and Floyd agreed to terms for a May 2014 rematch at 154, then a 3rd fight 4 months later in September 2014. What would have happened in your mind? How much more success would Canelo have vs Floyd in 2014 after already being in there with Floyd the year before?

And here's another question to ponder, if Floyd would have chose to stay at 154 and not drop down to 147 to fight Maidana, how do you think Floyd would have done at 154 vs Trout and Lara ? What kind of problems do you think the 2014 Lara that fought Canelo would have given Floyd? Do you think Floyd would have been able to eek out a decision vs Lara like Canelo did, or do you think Floyd would have had more success than Canelo did?

 

Please think this through for a moment. In 2014 Floyd was struggling with Marcos Maidana, while Canelo knocked out Alfredo Angulo and beat a prime Lara. (however controversial you think the Lara fight was, it was close and Canelo did perform well, arguably better than Floyd performed vs Maidana, many thought Floyd lost the first fight or that it was a draw)

Now ask yourself who is a better P4P fighter, prime 2014 Lara or 2014 Marcus Maidana , a guy who lost to Amir Khan. Are you sure that the 2014 Canelo who beat Angulo and Lara couldn't beat the Floyd who struggled with Maidana ?

In retrospect I think Floyd dropping back down to welterweight in 2014 may have slowed him down, because for one he looked way better vs Canelo than he did vs Maidana. I don't even think Floyd trained that hard for Maidana. So this is a very in depth question about what would happen if a Floyd Canelo Trilogy took place in 2014. You really need to utilize your brainpower to try to visualize how this would unfold. You could argue that Floyd was never the same fighter after he fought Canelo, if you just look at his performances in 2014 and 2015. Floyd Canelo was fought at a much higher level than Floyd Maidana, wouldn't you agree?

And while you consider that, how do you think Floyd would have matched up with Lara in 2014 if he would have stayed at 154?

 

He did.

 

lol he pushed as hard as he could, Floyd simply refused to rematch him. Floyd didn't want none of that work after going 12 with Canelo. Floyd didn't like being pushed to his limits like that.

 

You're falling into the trap than many have fallen into regarding Canelo Floyd. Floyd didn't thoroughly outclass Canelo at all. In fact early on Canelo was doing stuff to Floyd that made Floyd really uncomfortable.

I dare you to watch the first 6 rounds of Canelo Mayweather and conclude that Mayweather was just thoroughly outclassing him or schooling him. It's really an illusion. Yes Floyd won the fight by pulling away starting in the 7th round, Floyd may have been winning by a round or two after 6 rounds, but each of those first 6 were very close and are very debatable. What happened early on in that fight wasn't clear or dominant by Floyd. In the first 3 rounds alone, Canelo made Floyd flinch on an incredible amount of feints. That alone is not something that someone getting thoroughly outclassed does. Novices generally bite on Feints, not an boxing master like Floyd Mayweather. Floyd was pulling back hard and was in super defensive mode. Yes Floyd pulled away in the 2nd half of the fight, and at times "outclassed" Canelo, but only in spurts.

In totality it was a very even fight and one of the closest and challenging fights of Floyd's entire career. I can't think of a fight that dominance has been exaggerated to the extent of Floyd Canelo. I mean sure Floyd won but 95% of the boxing community have it grossly exaggerated. But regardless of all that, it was such a huge payday for Floyd he should have welcomed a rematch since it was such an easy schooling, but no Floyd decided to return to welterweight for a less money fight against Maidana. Something just doesn't add up. Also you had Canelo needing to make 152 which did affect him. A 154 "normal" Canelo would help, plus Floyd gets another year older, Canelo got that experience of being in there with Floyd, which everyone agrees made Canelo better, that would only have him improving, as he showed in 2014. I mean we just don't know how a trilogy would have played out, but I don't think we can just assume Floyd would easily beat him in a rematch when he barely beat Maidana a guy that wasn't seen as good as Canelo to begin with.