If Mayweather and Canelo fought a trilogy at 154 . . .

To clarify, I thought Floyd was in the best fighting shape as he had been in since his victory of Marquez when he fought Canelo. There's no denying that Floyd was very impressive in how he dispatched of Canelo. Floyd performed incredibly well vs Canelo, he had quick reflexes that night, he was dialed in, and that performance may have indeed revitalized interested in Floyd - Pac.

However, that said, the first 6 rounds were contested on very even terms and Canelo was doing stuff to Floyd than no one else has ever been able to do to Floyd (like getting him to flinch on feints, like countering Floyd, being engaged in a high level chess match which it was for the majority of the fight) he just didn't do it enough and got hit too much to win it. Floyd made adjustments starting in the 7th round and won the fight down the stretch and did so in impressive fashion. I'm not arguing with you there, you can be impressed with how a fighter won a fight and still not have it as a thorough outclassing or schooling. Fans tend to exaggerate a lot and that's what happened here.

 

that's funny because we just saw Canelo beat GGG with a high output pressure style. But to your point Canelo was content to outbox Mayweather in 2013 when many thought he'd have more success if he applied more pressure to Mayweather. That's why I was so impressed by Canelo in that fight, he didn't just go balls to the wall, he tried to beat Mayweather at his own game, and although he failed in doing that he created a high level chess match that Mayweather wasn't used to. That's why Mayweather was so challenged by Canelo, because Canelo chose to box Floyd rather then apply pressure.

The thing with Canelo is he's content to outbox you but if you start pushing his buttons like GGG did with all the diva-ing and drug accusations, Canelo decided to apply constant pressure to it and we seen what happened to GGG. He was reduced to an old jabber. I mean to think what would happen if Canelo fought Mayweather with the style he fought GGG in the rematch, that would be a hell of a fight.

But for you to say that Mayweather would beat him at any weight even now is delusional. I mean I wouldn't count Mayweather out, even now, but I think you're in the minority on that one. Most fans who have weighed in on this would clearly favor Canelo now as Mayweather is retired and didn't look particularly good last year when he came back in that circus to fight Conor McGregor.

 

Not to that extent he didn't. Who else did Floyd fight that made Floyd flinch 35 times with feints throughout the fight?

 

He was coming forward for almost the entire fight, after fighting off the backfoot for the majority of the first fight. That's a distinctly different style, he applied constant come forward pressure to GGG in the rematch, trying to deny that is comical.

If you've followed Canelo's career, there's been fights where he's been the aggressor (like Lara for example) and there's been fights that he's been the boxer punch (GGG 1 for example). Clearly has clearly demonstrated that he can be effective fighting off the backfoot or coming forward. He's clearly capable of fighting either way. Your point that Floyd struggles with high output pressure fighters isn't really proven. I mean sure in spurts Victor Ortiz had some success applying pressure before headbutting him and getting KO'd. But I mean Hatton was a high output pressure fighter, in retrospect he didn't really give Floyd all that much trouble, how many rounds did Hatton even win.

There's no single gameplan or style that equates to success against Floyd. Floyd is more than capable of beating a boxer or a pressure fighter. I really think you're missing my larger point, that Floyd was not used to fighting such a highly skilled boxer who remained patient in there who was trying to counter punch him. Floyd hasn't encountered anyone like Canelo who that kind of a balanced all around skill set in his entire career. But Canelo was still young an inexperienced, not as a boxer, but at that level when he fought Floyd. And the draining to 152 played a role as well. To deny these realities in an attempt to speak to my credibility is silly.

You're in the extreme minority in the view that Maywaether would make easy work of Canelo at MW today. Floyd has never fought at Middleweight in his life, he's been retired for over 3 years now aside from that circus vs McGregor. I mean even those who think Canelo was schooled or shutout by Mayweather still admit it would be a much different fight today. You're in the extreme minority on this view that Mayweather could come out of retirement and school 2018 Canelo at 160.

 

I watched plenty of his fights. There aren't many highly skilled boxers on Floyd's resume. You might have go back to like Emanuel Augustus or something to see Floyd challenged mentally like that. Chop Chop Corley had some nice head movement, Castillo obviously gave him problems. But Floyd never really fought a Sugar Ray Leonard, a Sweet Pea, a guy with really high level boxing skills. Prime DLH had some great high level skills but by the time he fought Mayweather he was past his prime. Canelo gave Floyd the high level skill test that he just simply hadn't experienced throughout his career, certainly not in the later stages of his career.

 

you're wearing blinders.