If Mayweather beats Mosely, will that be his best win?

...You think Oscar had a speed advantage over Mayweather? Really?

 

No but I think it was a big part of allowing him to push the issue and get close to him.

 

Just that he had good speed for a man with as much size advantage? I could see that, certainly.

 

Well your wrong then, Kessler is no where near Hopkins level, he just lost every round against Andre Ward and his career best win is probably Mundine. I had Hopkins beating Calzaghe but going against Hops and winning an SD still rates over getting a dominant win over kessler.

Hey Joe was even more dominant against Lacy, do you rate that win over the Kessler win?

Based on your logic I take it you dont rate Leonards wins over Hagler or Hearns because they were close fights and not dominant? I also take it you dont give much note to Pacquaios 'win' over Marquez, because he was outboxed and ineffective

Usually against great opponents your going to have a harder closer fight, its natural

 

Yes

 

It will be one of them, it COULD be his best win but its not CLEARLY his best win if it is indeed his best win.

Considering all circumstances such as time frame, age, primes etc. it will rank up there with Gen Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, Hatton & DLH.... I think people tend to underrate the Hatton & Oscar wins, those were fights were he faced a genuine threat, a lot of fans felt Hatton had the style to win & Oscar - especially at 154 lbs - had never put in a bad shift in a big fight & had a good size advantage.

All in all, Id rather have had Floyd face MP but Mosely is without doubt the next best option (some think better) at 147.

It will be a good win for Mayweather & once MP does likewise to Clottey, surely there can be no hiding from a Mayweather fight.

 

And yet, I would laugh my ass off if Mayweather were knocked out by Mosley and Pacquiao were knocked out by Clottey. Just because I would. Oh, god of two flukes in a row, I pray to you for this one thing...

 

True

 

False.

Floyd was unimpressive, unconvincing, underwhelming against Oscar. Any neutral or objective would say the same.

This was a past-prime Oscar who lost his cool and his bounce after 6 rounds. Floyd was prime and in peak condition, yet his own over-cautious mentality prevented him from emphatically dominating and punishing Oscar down the stretch.

Looking at the Forbes and Pacquiao fights, and considering Mayorga was pretty much shot by the time Oscar beat him, this was a very, very past-prime version of the Golden Boy, who really should have been a far easier night for the pound-for-pound number 1.

 

Anyone who thought Hatton was a genuine threat or had the style to win needs to retire from being a boxing fan. The guy was picked off at will by Eamonn Magee and almost knocked out by Luis Collazo (I purchased a partial career set for the Hitman the other day and have been watching not much else this week). He was never a threat to Floyd, especially not at 147, which he is not close to being equipped for.

 

Looking at the Forbes and Pac fights Oscar should have never gone below 154.
Mayorga was shot or just never that good? He performed better against Vargas and Mosley after ODLH.

 

I never believed Hatton would be much of a threat to Mayweather, but I also never thought he would make it as far as he did either. I also remember the Magee fight well, and seeing how a mid level technician could land straight punches on Hatton, I was sure Tsyzu would knock him into the cheap seats.

 

Vargas was shot to **** when Mayorga fought him. Both of them looked terrible. Mosley has never performed very well at 154, and Mayorga was a big lmw by then, difficult physical task for Shane that one. But he still got the KO.

 

You're right about Magee.

The Tszyu performance was one of those freak results where a merely decent fighter puts it all together one night - Hatton was tremendous. His chin was solid, his tactics were good, his punching was accurate. He never, ever looked close to that good before or after IMO.

 

To be honest, I am aware I am known as a bit of a Mayweather-sceptic on this forum, but what I find really strange is that I think I have a higher opinion of him than his own fans judging by this thread!!

Bill B, Lefthook, Powerpuncher, the Classic Forum's Usual Suspects in the Floydette fanfare, all seem to think the De La Hoya win was a great one, and that Floyd performed well - which I find baffling.

You can't say a performance is a great one or a win is a great one if the victor performed way below their capabilities. When you guys talk up the De La Hoya win/performance, you are actually lowballing Mayweather's abilities.

I think Floyd was capable of so, so much more than he bothered to show that night. He was languid, lethargic, over-cautious, and inhibited. In the first half of the fight, he was dire. In the second half, he was better but he still wasn't fighting close to the best of his ability.

If Floyd had fought to the best of his ability, he could have completely dominated the 'years past his sell-by date' version of Oscar. But he didn't. He did the absolute minimum required to squeak through.

If that's your idea of a great Mayweather win/performance, you don't know much about your own favourite fighter.