If Mayweather blows out Ortiz, and Pacquiao drops a few rounds to Marquez

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'd rather Pacquiao keep the number 1 spot. If Mayweather wants that spot, he can do it in the ring by beating Pacquiao. I mean who's the last guy to get that no.1 spot by beating the no.1 guy? It's a unique opportunity for Mayweather.
     
  2. PH|LLA

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    I'm talking about styles not speed, skills and talent. Mayweather and Marquez have very different styles.
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    probably Shane Mosley.
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Marquez is more offensive, Floyd more defensive, but both their styles are primarily based on counter punching, creating opening and boxing.

    Nothing that Marquez does that Mayweather isnt drastically superior in.
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Would've said the same thing in 2009. But Pacquiao's recent run of opponents have been really poor.
     
  6. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Because he never left the number 1 position on my list.
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I don't believe so.
     
  8. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is the mostest bestest fighter of all times and my most special hero
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I don't care. They need to fight eachother regardless. Pacquiao can keep that number 1 spot, and they can settle it in the ring.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    Their stances are different. Their mindsets are different as well. Like you said one is more offensive, the other more defensive. Marquez also throws more combinations and isn't afraid to fight fire with fire. FLoyd is more about placing single shots and taking his opponent out of his comfort zone. Mayweather's defense is more about slipping and dodging (and deflecting) while Marquez relies more on his guard and creating distance. Yes they are both counterpunchers but their styles are very different.
     
  11. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Pac struggled against Marquez partly due to styles and partly due to weight drain. Pac has improved since their second fight and won't be cutting weight this time.

    Pac fought Marquez at his best weights. Floyd fought Marquez at 144 (well, at least one of them did), the same weight *****s are fussing over, now that Pac-Marquez III is at that same weight, not realizing they are discrediting Floyd's win by saying Marquez is ineffective at 144. :lol:
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Roach said Pac was perfectly healthy at the weight and would blow Marquez out.


    There was no weight drain. Pac was 146 or so on fight night.

    Floyd fans established long ago Marquez was a tuneup. It is you *******s who are basically inflating Floyds victory but making this a great match for Pac.

    Same as you do for most of Pacquiao's opponents coming off bad performances or losses, which is most of his career at welter.
     
  13. Ak47

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    Ortiz couldnt win one round against Pac
     
  14. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    So was Ortiz' performance in the 2nd half a result of mental lapses or endurance issues from cutting to 140? he obviously looks bigger and stronger at 147 but was his weight the actual issue for his performance?

    In the Berto fight he kept coming and kept fighting Berto in a way Berto hasn't had to face with his handpicked patsy opponents HBO was okay with him fighting. The good moments in the fight showed Berto had SOMETHING to him but he couldn't keep Ortiz off of him so of course Victor had no problem keeping up his attack.
     
  15. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Roach said rehydrating 16 pounds was a big mistake as it made Pac sluggish. Yeah, look how healthy Pac looks at the weigh in...

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