If Mayweather had stuck with Bob Arum

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  1. cilldara11

    cilldara11 Guest

    You do know Hatton and De La Hoya was within his last 4 fights right?
     
  2. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he probably would have fought cotto around the time that margarito fought cotto... thats for sure
     
  3. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bob Arum would still be talking like this:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tma-5riGoc[/ame]


    Amazing how after Mayweather left him he started singing another tune. Bob, more than anybody else, knows to keep his fighters far away from Mayweather if he wants them to keep making money for him.

    It's all spite over money now: he uses Mayweather's name to promote his fighters by claiming Mayweather is ducking them when Bob knows damn well he would not put them in the ring with Mayweather.
     
  4. If there were an ATG list for being a biased blind idiotic hater, you would definitely be #1.
     
  5. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    PAc's fans are the worst. Check out some of their answers. They use alts, fake responses to create arguments, and are just a sad bunch of degenerates who don't even support Donaire who won the other night lol..and he is Filipino. Fake ass band wagon boxing fans who loved the fact that Floyd even asked their hero cheater to take a blood test. You think JMM gave PAc hell lol...
     
  6. NALLEGE

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    lol, there is no simple science behind any of his answers lol... He just mutters "dumb" day after day lol...and is happy to be a human pinata day after day as long as he gains support from his fellow *******s:rofl
     
  7. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Yes but the conservative estimates for the Pac vs PBF fight was around 3 million and potential of up to 5 million.

    They can earn $40 mil just in PPV buys alone (not counting gate fees, cross promotions, sponsorship potentials, etc).
     
  8. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :deal What he said.

    Arum is a phony...Cant knock him for how he gets his money but everybody should know how fake he is!
     
  9. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    This is the same Arum..."I'm telling the truth today but I lied yesterday"

    Arum doesnt look out for the best interest for his fighters IMO...He only tries to milk them! He's no better then Don King!

    Fake mother****as!:patsch
     
  10. Former Dawg

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    It is funny how people forget Floyd didn't fight for two years. The way some people post they make it seem like he was fighting the entire time and chose not to fight certain fighters. Baldomir and Judah both were consider very good at the time he fought them. It is a fact that Floyd has not fought an Arum fighter since leaving his stable. People blame Floyd when they should blame Arum.
     
  11. ekar

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    Probably would have not fought Hoya and won't be named money. and Arum would have feed him guys like Cotto and margarito.
     
  12. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you mean the same 2 years he went into "retirement" when the public was clamoring for a cotto showdown.
     
  13. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    That can't be right! Bob always knew he was a coward apparently.:patsch
     
  14. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Probably about a little better. Instead of fighting who he's fought, he probably would have fought Cotto, Margarito and Clottey, with a scrub or two mixed in, he still probably would have fought Baldomir, and he'd be fighting Pacquiao next.

    On the other hand, he'd be a lot less rich!!
     
  15. Toontoon

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    Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.
    According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
    "I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."
    Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
    "Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
    "We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
    With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.
    That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.
    The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.
    Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.
    "We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."
    Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.
    The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
    Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.
    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
    Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."
    Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
    The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.
    Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
    "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
    Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.
    Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.
    But Arum is confident they will make the deal.
    "We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."
    Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.
    Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.
    "But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."



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