If Mayweather Wins via Jab And Move, Is he ATG?

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  1. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

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    He knocked Vargas down with one punch. He did not knock him out. When you knock someone out, the don't get back up. They are still "out".
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Answer to thread title - of course, any win over Mosely, especially a win were you only use one punch repeatedly, is greatness.
     
  3. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

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    Everyone does not sign their contracts the day they receive it. There really is no point besides early promotion to sign to fast. However, the fight is in 4 months, more than enough time to hype. He could have waited until March 13. If he was "holding for something..." why sign anyway?
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I think your reaching for **** that aint there, personally.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    The question wasnt about Mayweather being an ATG WW, everyone knows thats not the case, the question was will he be an ATG period because of this particular victory at WW.
     
  6. VIP

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    Mayweather needs to win convincingly to help his case. I'd say he is already a great fighter but how great? We don't know.
     
  7. DonPrestige

    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    jab and move.

    I always thought tha was one of the first things you were taught when boxing.

    If Floyd could beat a fighter the calibre on Mosley by just doing that then damn, maybe he is the greatest of all time. No point in being hit if you don't have too.

    People need to realise that being an exciting fighter and great boxer are not the same thing. Edison Miranda is exciting but far from great.
     
  8. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

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    Winning is based on being better and having a better game plan than your opponent in addition to execution of said game plan.
    Furthermore, boxing is ALL about the jab. Those "ATG's" on most lists have awesome jabs. Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Foreman, Sonny Liston...etc.
     
  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    It also depends on how Mosley looks,if Mosley looks his age and puts on a pathetic performance(i dont think he will) fraud wont get much credit,similar to Pac-DLH which isnt considered much of win cause of the way Oscar looked in that fight.
     
  10. hmm

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    hmm says . . .

    I got PBF ranked somewhere mid low to mid ATG already...
    a win off of one kind of punch can be a brilliant performance granted that it may be boring.. but like other posters said, Jab and Move is pretty much one of the basic things to learn in boxing. I'll be damn surprised if he wins that way, granted Mosley is a good enough fighter to not allow himself repeated bs.

    I'm thinking the majority of peeps here want to see a dramatic and entertaining fight...
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    1. Use paragraphs please, that was actually a chore to get from start to finish.

    2. English would be nice.

    :good
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Oscar looked **** in his previous fight + fought at 147 when he was a 154 lber for yrs tho.... Shane looked great in his last fight & without doubt will be comfortable at 147.

    The winner of this fight - whoever that is - should get full credit, Shane should get a little more as FMJ will likely be the favourite tho.
     
  13. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    The way I see it, if Old fat man Marquez was able to land his right hand on Floyd's face, Mosley can do much more damage.
     
  14. h2hkiller

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    Okay, so being able to out potshot Shane Mosley fulfills the criteria of being an ATG.

    For me, ATG status is where you move up weight divisions and still dominate elite fighters to the point where a TKO comes. You are not supposed to dominate them, but the expectation is that you are supposed to give a fairly decent performance based on your speed. If you surpass that, to me, that is ATG performance.
     
  15. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Regardless of how he wins(except by robbery) it increases his status as an ATG. He does not need to 'gain' ATG status he already is.