If Mosley applies the punch, punch, punch, then clinch work against Mayweather?

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  1. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    I noticed that Mosley employed this a lot against Margarito.

    Considering that Mayweather is a counterpuncher more than an offensive fighter, this technique might work very well since Mayweather can not throw his counter once clinched. A technique probably not employed by the smaller JMM, but Castillo used it to a certain success (plus of course he was always pushing Mayweather with his body). Hatton as well has a limited success with this technique against Mayweather.

    There is a science to this approach since Mayweather is a very accurate counterpuncher. Once you shorten the throwing arc, the power also dimishes. So even if Mayweather will be able to connect, it would be close to a arm throw. Plus it is also a tring kind of fight.

    This is a technique used by fighters who are old as this basically preserves their strength especially if they are thge bigger fighter or neutralizes the strength of the younger fighter. Watch Ali in his twilight years.

    Only knowlegeable poster who understand the dynamics of punch to post!!!
     
  2. MAYLO

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    No. Floyds not Margarito.
     
  3. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Castillo actually used it in the first fight, although not clinching, but basically pushing him or putting his weight on him.

    Mayweather is not exactly very elusive. He has very good footwork but not the kind of footwork that goes in and out of range, which is hard to clinch.
     
  4. MAYLO

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    Hatton used it too, but Floyd played his ass. Floyd back in Castillo days is nothing like Floyd now, he'll time that punch punch clinch and start picking Shane off. If Shane can just use effective pressure and out work him, he'll have a much better shot at victory. Trust me, Brother Nasim will have a great game plan that will giva Shane a real shot at winning.
     
  5. Ilesey

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    There will probably be a similar element to the tactics he used against Margo. He will need a jab to set up combinations and he will need to unload to get Mayweather defemsive and to think twice about coming out of his shell. I really hope Mosely pulls this off.
     
  6. normnix

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    Eventually he's going to get caught lunging to clinch Floyd if he tried that. Check left hook time (minus the knockout of course).
     
  7. pejevan

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    Mayweather never throws his hook while the opponent is still throwing. Couple that with the fact that you could actually already anticipate him throwing a left hook.

    Besides Hatton was caught not while trying to clinch.

    When Hatton was clinching and roughing upo Mayweather, he had limited success, considering that Hatton actually does not have the weight to to that against a fighter who is bigger.

    But Mosley would be definitely bigger and even leaning on Mayweather constantly is tiring for Mayweather as he has to push back.
     
  8. Ilesey

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    Exactly. Plus Mosley will not just charge forward with his chin out. Hatton comes forward like Usain Bolt.
     
  9. USboxer1981

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    no won't work... Mosley is going to have ALOT of trouble with PBF's Jab
     
  10. DemolitionDan

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    Well, if Mosley does clinch a lot in this fight. He better hope that the ref isn't in Floyd's back pocket. If Mosley does clinch Floyd will use his elbows, and duck wayy below his waist, and then the ref might take a point away from Mosley for no reason.
     
  11. pejevan

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    Mayweather never palyed Hatton when Hatton was clinching then punching. When Hatton used his clinch then punch technique, Mayweather was actually baffled. It was when Cortez did not allow it to happen that made Hatton fight easy.
     
  12. MAYLO

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    You are quite correct. That jab will give Shane fits.
     
  13. MAYLO

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    Cortez did split them early a few times but Floyd made space with that elbow too. Then he played his ass.
     
  14. pejevan

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    Jab is never a strong point of Mayweather considering that for a small man, he has a very long reach.

    On a scale of 1-10 points with 10 being the highest, his jab is at best probably 5 or 6.

    Prime Hoya would probably have 8 or 9 point jab.
     
  15. pejevan

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    We are talking when HaTTON was clinching.

    You have to admit that Hatton had success with it early in the fight.