If Mosley applies the punch, punch, punch, then clinch work against Mayweather?

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  1. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    clinching doesnt preserve energy. it needs alot of energy since youll be roughing up your opponent while trying to find a shot but this technique could work against pbf.
     
  2. MAYLO

    MAYLO Active Member Full Member

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    He did have success. As did Oscar as did Judah. Mosleys going to have to find a way to have a COMPLETE fight not just a fast start.
     
  3. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    As for Oscar at that age, he can not sustain throwing jabs the entire 12 rounds, he just gasses out.

    Judah - what can I say. When the going gets tough, that is when he unravels, similar to Freitas. He does not have any second option of fighting. They are good when they are dissing the punishment, but when the opponent starts to connect, their mind goes blank, as if thinking how to get out of the fight immediately.

    One thing that went for Mosley in the Margarito fight is that Margarito does not know actually how to clinch properly. It seems that it is a trademark of Many Latino fighters. (e.g. Rafael Marquez, Cotto).
     
  4. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    True but if you are the bigger fighter, you won't exert too much effort as compared to the smaller fighter. The bigger fighter would just have to lean forward or put his weight and the smaller fighter would have to push against a heavier load.

    Both fighters expend energy however the smaller fighter has to expend more.

    You don't even have to load up. Just throw 3-4 punches then clinch. Ugly but effective, and after 7 or 8 rounds, you could rpobably loosen up since energy is already expended, therefore the risk of eating a superpunch is lesser, at the same time the opponet is less mobile.
     
  5. Manjuice

    Manjuice chiastic contrapposto Full Member

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    Won't work. Watch how mayweather fights on the inside. He doesn't square up to his opponants he gives them his shoulder first standing to his side. Can u imagine mosely throwing punches while Floyd covers up then mosely initiates a clinch holding Floyd by the waist?
     
  6. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

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    but floyd would run, run, run, run, run, run, pot shot, run. run, run run run run
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I agree. The ONLY chance Mosley has in this fight is to ugly the fight up. He has to beat Floyd to the punch and then get on top of him immediately. He needs to fight like Hatton did. He is faster, more accurate, stronger and has a better chin then Hatton too.
    Floyd has been away a while and has never fought someone with the combination of speed and strength. Mosley needs to know how to use those attributes in this fight though. That is when Floyd plays defense, he needs to get off with 2 shots and then wrap up floyds arm tight and drag him around and push him back. Even if he does no damage other then maybe wearing floyd down a bit, if he gets tight before any counters come at him, Floyd won't score any points either. If Mosley can successfully do implement this plan, he will have the final 3 rounds, with a slightly tired out Floyd to bang with him and go for the win.

    THE PROBLEMS:

    Mosley may tire out before Mayweather from doing this.
    It is NOT DEFINITE that mosley will be stronger in the clinch then Flloyd, probable, but Floyd does have underrated strenght and his positioning and footwork and superior dirty boxing tactics may be the deciding factor
    If Mosley is successful, Floyd will adjust and begin to beat Mosley to the punch.
    Its easier said then done to hit and hold Mayweather before a counter comes due to Mayweather's upper body movement and tremendous footspeed.

    PREDICTION:

    Floyd by wide UD, of late stoppage after Mosley tires out of frustration and being countered and tagged all night. floyd will turn more offensive and aggressive in the championship rounds and try and make a statement.
     
  8. Manjuice

    Manjuice chiastic contrapposto Full Member

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    The lack of a stern jab will kill mosely in this fight. Floyd likes to jab to the body to set up his check hook and straight. That jab has been said to be deceptively strong. If Shane has to think about getting around it and freezes then Floyd keeps him in the center of the ring then floyd ud's mosely
     
  9. YelloLabs

    YelloLabs Shura No Toki Full Member

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    Mosley 1st 5 rounds to apply extreme pressure . . . with a good chin, avoid reset/no clinching and aim for Floyd lead shoulder. ;p

    If not Floyd win by decision.
     
  10. horst

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    It's an interesting theory. I can't wait to see what tactics Naazim and B-Hop come up with for Shane (I expect Hopkins to have an influence in this too). He could employ the hit-and-hold tactics, and this could be successful as Shane is stronger, more powerful, and heavier than Floyd. He could on the other hand just try to outwork Floyd, but I think this is riskier as Shane is almost 40 and may not be able to fight like a buzzsaw for 12 rounds like he could in 2000. Naazim will pick the right strategy I'm sure.
     
  11. wvucheerjr

    wvucheerjr Active Member Full Member

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    Yea man I gotta admit I'm a Shane mark. if Nasim pulls this one off he's a legend.
     
  12. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I just can't see Mosley having the foot speed or movement to get close to Mayweather. Mayweather sees any sort of movement and he's away, possibly countering at the same time.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Two problems here. One PBF's footwork and foot speed are light years better than Margo's. Two Shane can't cut the ring off like JLC could he just follows people around.
    Not saying Shane won't have success with this its honestly his best strategy he can employ.
     
  14. waldoesj

    waldoesj Active Member Full Member

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    Mosley has his trainer Nazim and Bernard to help him find the best available strategy to beat Floyd. I don't think it will be that hard to Mosley to apply it. It only depends on floyd
     
  15. Jpo21

    Jpo21 Don't call it a comeback Full Member

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    Its going to be tough for Mosley to continuously get in without getting countered all night. I think a big question mark is how Floyd's timing is going to be. I mean, only fighting once in the last few years could have an effect on him, especially in the first few rounds.

    I think even if Mosley make this work early like Hatton did, PBF will be able to make adjustments and use his speed to keep Shane off him in the second part of the fight.