If Mosley comes in at 150 at weigh-in, would the fight still be on?

Are you making up things because the NSAC commissioner actually commented on it.

The NSAC never got hold of the original contract. What they had was the revised contract which had the fight at a welterweight limit of 147 but a catchweight of 144. Where in the world would you have a catchweight but at the same time a welterweight limit.

The original contract was at 144. But Mayweather already knew they would not make it that is why GBP has to revise the contract.

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, meaning that no fight. However,

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. In order for that to happen, there must be a catch, which is paltry sum of 300,000 dollars per pound over 144.

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According to NSAC, the penalty for coming overweight is 10 per cent of the purse for the first 2 pounds (the poundage I am not so sure anymore, and additional 10 per cent for every pound). My memory is sketchy but there is a corresponding penalty clauses. And the commission does not actually share that penalty with JMM.

Do the maths and you will see that if the commission fined Mayweather, he would have paid at least 1 million to close to 1.5 million depending on what amount of purse you believe.

So basically, by revising the contract,

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A simple addition to a contract actually means something, and I am sure it is not to just pay JMM for May coming overweight.

 

You really think that the fight was for 147. So basically they asked a

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to fight at 147.

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Still not true because USADA allows an athlete to miss one tests, without penalty.

So if you use EPO, which is really not effective unless taken months prior to fight, you basically would not get caught.

The 14 days would not be enough for the body to produce enough Red blood cells. That window is only good for very few PEDS. Even steroids would need time to work, meaning you need to build muscles, and they don't grow that fast in two weeks time.

 

JMM had 2 fights at 135 against opponents he was supposed to dominate based on skills alone. Yet he struggled!!!!

You are simply an idiot who make everything look fairer when it comes to Mayweather.

JMM is a 130 pounder, and his best weight is at 130 pounds. Now if you believe that JMM is best at 135, then you are exactly dumber than I think.

BTW, Mayweather did not come in at 144 because he does not want to cut weights (according to you). Is that a new rule now, every fighter has to make weight except Mayweather because he does not want to cut weight, just like every mayweather fight has to do his own doping policy?

 

You might be correct but Kizer, who is the NSAC commissioner at that time commented on ESPN :

"Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez.

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I think what you just quoted was under normal circu8mstances where fighter exceeds the welterweight limit with no catchweight. Maening if the fighter exceeds the welterwight limit in a welterweight fight. However, since this is a catchweight (but not a catchweight at the same time), there is different penalty for exceeding the weight stipulated in the catchweight, as well as increased percentage for exceeding the actual limit of welterweight limit..

The fight is actually unprecedented because it never happened before that the fight is a cathweight at the same has a limit above the catchweight.

Here is the actual article :

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941

 

I have no problem if Pac backtracked or not. It does not even have a bearing if Pac is on steroid or not. If Mayweather wants to catch Pac using steroids or any PEDS, then do it the right way.

Discredit Mayweather???


It is actually the likes of you who are revisionist who makes the things muddled.

Here is the actual article by ESPN :

LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon,

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for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.
The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.
Marquez,

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, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

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throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.
However, several sources with

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three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.
But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."
Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.
According to the source, the

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according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said

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Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

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"We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.
Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine."

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941

Go over it and read it hundred of times, or just read the highlighted ones. If you doubt the veracity of ESPN, I could give you other sources as well.

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The problem with you is you take everything without analyzing.

We had an earlier debate as well with regards to Mayweather's weight during the Maywweather-JMM tussle (remember the 140 pounds that Mayweather could easily make just to make it like it's not a welterweight vs, a lightweight tussle?), and you were way off target with that one as well.

You are way off target in this one as well.

I am not here to discredit Mayweather but to correct the revisionist stories that Floydettes spew.

 

Typical Floydette - IQ in the range of Moronic and imbecilic level.

You are what they call spin doctor and doing very poorly at that. You don't have the IQ to debate with me so get the lhell out of here. Better still, why don't you do a tag team, you and all the Floydettes against me.

Sure, Floyd has the right to come in against someone who fights really at welterweight, say Cotto or Margarito, but against a lightweight he asked to go up to welterweight?

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The thread was started because I beleieve that Mosley will get as much advantage as he can, example - weight (plus he will probably do a hatton). With Mosley's financial troubles, a win here assures another big money fight, while a loss would be a relegation move fihting the likes of berto. Now, apparently, the ultra-sensitive Floydettes find it offensive and think it was an attack to the earlier "***** Move" of Mayweather against JMM.