If Mosley was So Old & Shot...Why did Roach/Pacquiao refuse to fight him...TWICE?

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    are you ******ed or something? do you believe that a 140 mosley is better than a 145 cotto? do you have a mind of your own or just beleive in every roach interview? or do you believe roach also when he said that floyd has no legs anymore? you guys only picks what you want to believe.
     
  2. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One loss with a guy who had bricks in his gloves, cotto was never the same again. Just look at him against flat footed Clottey.

    Mosley knocked the **** out of Margarito, a guy Mayweather supposedly ducked.
     
  3. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They could have fought Mosley at 147 or 145 so for you to keep talking about 140, just shows the bull**** in your argument.
     
  4. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    What respected voters?:huh

    Cotto is damaged goods and he hasn't looked the same fighter he was before getting destroyed by Margarito, I can see it from watching him fight and Freddie Roach even admits it too.

    Mosley may have lost 5 times but he was never destroyed like Cotto was and was coming off one of his best career performances against someone regarded the best welterweight in the division at the time.

    Your logic that Cotto only lost once but Shane lost 5 times so how is he not more damaged goods is shite.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    mosley knocked a margarito with no bricks and confidence in him pus the fact that his mind was flying by fight time saying to himself "**** i got caught!" meanwhile cotto fought a margarito with a possible confidence booster. thats why even after 6 rounds of schooling, margo did not lose heart and continued to fight on knowing that his load would harden any minute.

    different versions of margo cotto and mosley fought. but when the two of them fought, cotto outboxed old-man mosley easily.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

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    you keep saying that they ducked a 140 mosley.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    cotto was beaten but destroyed? he was not even knocked-out with that brick. he took a knee and just accepted defeat knowing that he can bounce back. he proved that he still has it when he beat to submission gomez and beat a bigger, tough, rugged and defensive welter in clottey.

    meanwhle mosley is more questionable since he has lost to cotto, been in a tough fight with mayorga, an impressive victory over margo but was inactive for 1.5 years before fighting floyd.
     
  8. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    He beat Gomez before he lost to Margarito.

    He also struggled against Clottey and it was a fight that Clottey lost by taking his foot off than Cotto won, he really struggled his way through that one and didn't look like the Cotto of old at all.

    As for Mosley, he lost a narrow fight with a prime Cotto that could have gone either way, he wasn't that impressive against Mayorga but I've never been impressed with Shane at 154 yet he still knocked him out and then went on to have one of his career best victories over someone that has never been stopped.

    His inactivity makes no difference as he wasn't inactive when Roach went after the damaged fighter than the one coming a victory over the man at welterweight.
     
  9. Scar

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    He went toe to toe with Cotto and we all know how hard Cotto hits, he hits hard enough to back off Mosley which he successfully did and won. Cut off the crap please.
     
  10. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont see how anybody can justify pac fighting cotto instead of mosley at the time...the logic 'well fighter A beat fighter B' is no good here, the fact of the matter was that Shane was the #1 welterweight at the time and Pacs people refused to fight him, they went for the #3 guy instead.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    my bad, i mean jennings. the clottey fight took away some questions that cotto might have been destroyed by margo. if i remember correctly, many are picking clottey just becuase they think cotto was finished. but cotto proved most people wrong when he beat clottey. before pacquiao, no welterweight has looked good against clottey even in winning.

    meanwhile, the mosley victory over margo had mislead many people into thinking that mosley might have a very good chance against floyd.
     
  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If anybody could predict before fight that Mosley will have power just for two rounds ...
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    first is, i want mosley instead of cotto back then for cotto is my favorite and i don't want pac and cotto get a beating from each other. but fighting mosley has its own backside since mosley is already 38 years old. also cotto was already pre-planned by arum even at the cotto-clottey fight where pac was made to attend it. cotto-pac is as big as a pac-mosley fight but of course it should be at welter and not at jr. welter as mosley offered.
     
  14. goblin 2

    goblin 2 Blue Goblin Alliance Full Member

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    lol.................
     
  15. psychopath

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    Yeah because Floyd needs to take the risks now. Pacquiao is on the way out and he is in #1 position :D . . . Floyd maybe on the way out too but he is floating in #2 . . . do you see the difference? :lol:

    Pac doesn't have to take unnecessary risk . . . he can retire as the #1 P4P fighter . . . what about Floyd?

    . . . the fact that the suppose fight with Pac didn't materialize because of his usual bullcraps, Floyd needs to fight and cannot chose opponent anymore. :deal