If my favourite fighter refused testing . . . . .

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  1. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought it was Kell asking Porter to undergo extra testing which he did not and which is why everyone was suspect of him. And I'm figuring since Porter never did, Kell never bothered to undergo extra testing either, I believe Kell would've had Porter...Kell, the guy that was asking, is not suspect to me. To me, it's a situation where he figures why should he get what he believes is only extra interruptions, while his opponent does not.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Local commission testing, sure... Which Porter was then subjected to as well.

    I am talking about all the discussion regarding additional blood testing from both sides before this fight. Neither signed up for it. That creates suspicion for one fighter and not the other? That is a hypocrisy.
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Kell did undergo testing (3.00):

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE-4cza1jtY[/url]

    The only person who said there was no testing was Kenny Porter....(then afterwards he claimed he is the one who originally asked for it :patsch)
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Donaire, Pulev, Mayweather and his last 6 opponents, etc. don't seem to mind the interruptions...

    I don't judge people by what they don't do, I judge them by what they do. So I won't give credit for Brook "saying" he wants extra testing but ultimately not doing it. You have to actually do it. Talk is too cheap and easy.
     
  5. Super Hans

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    They was tested by the UCLA not local commission. USADA testing was agreed in the contracts but then Golden Boy suspiciously moved the fight date and USADA claimed they needed more time, so Brook's promoter pushed for another body to do random testing.

    At no point in his career has Kell Brook refused random testing (what this thread is about) so don't use your normal agenda to hate on a Brook because he schooled Porter.
     
  6. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I read this.

    I could care less what Pulev says. Wlad gets tested.

    Pulev shouldn't be saying anything about PEDs to Wlad when Wlad has fought someone who was juicing. Wlad knows firsthand.

    It's like someone accusing Cotto of wearing illegal wraps, when Cotto more than anyone knows what it is like to fight someone (Margarito) that uses illegal wraps.

    Cotto's never used illegal wraps and Wlad doesn't do roids.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Following is a quote from...

    ...source:

    [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/7/31/5956091/golden-boy-bungles-drug-testing-for-brook-porter[/url]

    Golden Boy Promotions has botched the testing regimen that was supposed to be in place for Shawn Porter's title defense against Kell Brook on August 16. Both fighters agreed to testing that would be overseen by USADA, which requires a six-week process. We're now just over two weeks out from the fight and, according to ESPN's Dan Rafael, neither fighter has been asked for a sample.

    Oscar de la Hoya fumbled on a media call last week when asked about testing and passed the buck to Golden Boy VP Eric Gomez. In an email to ESPN, Gomez blamed the snafu on rescheduling of the fight:

    "When the date changed to Aug. 16, there wasn't enough time. We then, collectively [Golden Boy and Brook promoter Matchroom Boxing], agreed to have the California State Athletic Commission handle the testing. The UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory, through the [California] Department of Consumer Affairs, will handle the testing for us. They start testing this week."

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    Porter and Brook both underwent the same UCLA testing and nothing more.

    So, nothing I have said is incorrect.

    What do you think about that, Hans?

    Bias to hold one thing against one person when you don't hold the same exact thing against another, don't ya think?
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well, you don't factually know this at all, but thanks for your opinion.

    Also, fighting someone who has tested positive for PED's before has nothing to do with ones' own likelihood to use PED's.
     
  9. Super Hans

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    Yes it was:


    First of all it was negotiated in the contract as Eddie Hearn say on this video around 15.50 mins in:

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syLoYhSFssA[/url]

    and there was extra testing, even if UCLA did it. For example, why would they need to know where Brook would be at all times the month prior to the fight and they come to Las Vegas to test Brook 2 weeks out.

    Also as I said Brook has nothing to do with this thread, his team requested (rather than Brook himself who was confident he'd beat Porter juicing or not), Golden Boy tried to wriggle out it- but Brook has never refused random testing. You brought him to hate on him because you are still upset you said Porter would win 10 or 11 rounds or get stopped, yet it was quite the opposite.
     
  10. kiwi_boxer

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    What are your thoughts on a fighter who refuses to present their testing records?

    (Mayweather when he was delivered a subpoena from Manny Pacquiao's team)
     
  11. smooveonthe88

    smooveonthe88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...I would be suspicious.
     
  12. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Obviously the fighter is dirty, or not too sure on what his camp is feeding him.
     
  13. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Medical records, including drug tests are protected by HIPAA.
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    title is misleading.

    none of them refused standard testing. they only refused floyd's version of osdt.
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    the person or the patient can sign off all or part of his record if he chooses to disprove a rumor.