If my favourite fighter refused testing . . . . .

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    You are going wicked far out of your way to try to show why you were offended by what I said.

    I didn't say anything wrong at all.

    They were both tested by the exact same measures.

    Talk is cheap. Saying and doing are two different things.

    Brook wouldn't be on that list I posted if he had taken random blood testing. He said he wanted to and would while making a big fuss about wanting his opponent to. Then he didn't. It doesn't make him particularly suspicious to me but there are many people who have recently lobbied allegations at Porter. For the sake of not being biased, I listed both fighters as each of them indicated they wanted testing additional to the local commission for their fight but neither of them did. To list one would be bias. Either both of them or neither, and for the sake of my broad opening question, I chose to ask what the OP thought of the whole thing.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao, Hopkins, and Ward are top name fighters that outright refused PED testing.
    I would bank that all 3 roid up to train for fights.

    Hlleaaaavvyyy training!!!
     
  3. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can see how this will cast a shadow of suspicion but jmm did not deny random testing, just vada. It's well known Conte works for vada and jmm trainer works for usada. They both hate each other for heridia snitching out conte, maybe heridia does not trust conte. JMM was open to usada but bradley insisted on vada. Arums solution was the commission to do test . Again I won't argue If you do believe he is roiding but he did not entirely deny testing just vada.
     
  4. Chango

    Chango Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or you can take a test, make $50 million dollars and beat the **** out of the guy that tried discredit you. And prove to the world you beat the best P4P in the world drug free.
     
  5. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    what about someone who claimed to clean the sport but refused to reveal his clean drug test records?

    if you have nothing to hide...:deal
     
  6. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    But Brook DID take random testing and his team continued to push for it even when Golden Boy thought they had scammed their way around it.

    He would'nt have been tested 2 weeks out while he was in last Vegas if no extra testing was involved, and once more randomly on fight week. Even Porter said he was also randomly tested when they turned up at his gym two weeks out from the fight- which is not standard unless extra testing is agreed.


    And put it this way can you imagine what haters like you would've said about Brook once GBP said USADA can't do it and he requested a postponement to allow for the testing, after you already accused him of faking an injury to avoid Alexander.
     
  7. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    what do you call the offer for urine test all the way to fight day with 3 blood test, 1 right after the fight???

    as far as pac's reason to refuse blood testing close to the fight, it goes as far back as 2007. it's way before a floyd fight was even talked about.
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Thank you!
     
  9. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal Pac could have ridiculed Floyd by stepping in the ring and destroying his ass. Instead Pac quacked, quacked ... That's what *******s call a warrior.
     
  10. Chango

    Chango Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what, isn't Pac requesting extra testing now a days?
     
  11. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    pac asked for vada in rios fight to prove he was true to his words he is ok with any test corpsejr has demanded.

    he was covering his bases, ball is corpsejr's court now.


    pac-bradley rematch, arum said nevada will do it's own random testing, no outside party extra testing.

    im not sure pac will ask for vada test against macne now. seems like nevada random test is ok, but im not sure.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Pacquiao should've did additional blood tests vs Clottey since that was right after failed negotiations. That would've made Floyd look real bad.
     
  13. detamour

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    juan & shane asked pac to take the tests too, what did pac do a gain? Remember, ther is no compulsion to take a test which is recognised by the us govt & wada? But you fools support a vada, who are backed by a convicted felon!!
     
  14. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    there was no vada then.
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    you keep talking about blood...what PED again is detectable only in blood and not in urine??