If not haye next for the klits, then it should be denis boytzov

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  1. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Boytzov is rated and has been rated in the rings top 10 for awhile now
    and he's undefeated. He's not a tall gawky guy like dimitrenko and he
    punches like a mule. His boxing is 1st rate and he's mean as ****. I'd
    honestly put my money on boytzov in a contest with haye all day long.
    I'm seeing too many bull**** threads about the klits not facing any stiff comp, especially vitaly. Arreola's done, adamek is tied up for awhile,
    Haye is too chickensh-t as is valuev(and he doesn't stand a chance anyway) povetkin will obviously be ready when the klits retire, and there
    isn't anybody else who creates any interest outside of the aforementioned
    names, so i'd like to see the young russian killer either take on one of these guys above, or go right to the klits. He's as ready as he'll ever be
    and quite honestly is even up with anybody in the division not named
    klitschko. I quite honestly think that the brothers are unbeatable bar a freak accident, but boytzov is one i'd like to see fight the brothers on HBO
    more than anyone else. Unless haye grows a pair. I really want to see Wlad knock him stiff like eddie chambers.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boystov's management would never put him in with the Klitschkos.

    Haye's lateral movement, and speed, would give Boystov fits, especially considering he's highly unproven as he's never fought anyone.

    Both men would knock him out.
     
  3. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You don't know what the **** you're talking about moron. Street thug.
    Haye's lateral movement? Have you ever seen haye fight douchbag?
    What lateral movement. Boytzov is head and shoulders a better boxer than haye and tougher too. I'll wager than he even hits as hard as gaye.
    He's not fought no one because he's not had the chance, but he has destroyed C level fighters with ease and is ready for the shot. I would
    def favor either klit over denis, but not haye. No ****ing way, and if you weren't such a brainless homie, and a real fan of the sweet science you'd
    see that.
     
  4. Vysotsky

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    Well he's just getting back into training after having had hand surgery. He hasn't fought a top 10 guy yet and don't imagine that he will until he has at least had a fight or two. Sdunek trains him and Vitali so i don't think they'll fight, i'm guessing they'll wait till Vitali retires if they go the WBC route.

    Not sure if he'd fight Volodymyr, Haye would be ideal and Boytsov's ranked #3 behind Chagaev and Valuev. Chagaev is Haye's mandatory, i'd love to see Chagaev KO Haye then have Boytsov vs Chagaev.

    Whatever happens i hope he takes a tune up, looks and feels great and then steps up and fights a top 10 guy.
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, you're right.

    Haye stood right in front of Valuev the entire night, and just stood straight up and down and blocked punches like Arthur Abraham.

    It's not like Haye was ever champion, so his experience is pure garbage.

    And I forgot that Boystov's win over nobody knows who he **** the guy is makes him a favorite in a fight against Klitschko's and Haye.

    You have no idea how much experience counts and obviously don't know **** about boxing.

    Boystov is merely a prospect. He is not ready for guys like Haye or Klitschko. He will be throughly outclassed, beat up, and knocked out.
     
  6. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    With a healthy hand now he'll smoke the botton rung of the top 10. He'd
    86 chagaev. He does everything better than ruslan and is fresher. He knocks haye cold IMHO.
     
  7. HENDO

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    Haye is one of the worst opponents you can put in with Boystov. He has not fought a guy with any lateral movement, and is not close to being equiped to deal with a guy like Haye who has movement, speed, and concussive power.

    His management would have to be brain damaged to put him in with Haye, unless they are asking to end this kid's career short.

    He doesn't have the skills nor the style to be competitive with Haye at this point. He has a puncher chance.

    That's it.
     
  8. Vysotsky

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    Jason Gavern who just got a draw with Jonathon Banks and upset Quezada in his fight before that had never been stopped or knocked down in his career (went the distance with Platov who is a huge puncher himself). Against Boytsov he got battered around the ring and dropped 7 seperate times i think in a 7th round KO loss.
     
  9. HENDO

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    Have you seen Jason Gavern fight though?
     
  10. Vysotsky

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    Bidenko has good D and footwork and Boytsov was more than fine against him. Denis has quick feet when he wants to, solid D, and perhaps most important is a great counterpuncher with fast, short, punches that would serve him well against Haye's often wide shots.

    Boytsovs technical abilities are far more sound than Haye's.
     
  11. Vysotsky

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    Not his 2 most recent ones with suprisingly good results. Only the Boytsov one. I posted that in relation to Boytsovs punching power, hence the Platov comment.
     
  12. HENDO

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    Bidenko stands right in front of you, seems incapable at bending at the waist or his knees, has slow hands, limited power, and was still managing to land on the very square Boystov.

    Haye would be giving him angles that Boystov would be ill equiped to deal with. Haye's punches would split right through Boystov's guard, and before Boystov would be able to lunge foward like an amateur like he tends to do, Haye would be nowhere in site.

    Boystov likes to lean against his opponent and land punches, he wouldnt' be able to find Haye, and Haye's speed difference would be like night and day.

    Boystov definitely doesn't have the skills Haye does, especially defensively.

    I have no idea how you can come to this conclusion.

    Boystov has potential due to his power, and he seems like he is willing to take punishment, but he is not ready for that kind of step up in competition.

    He would be anhiliated by Haye and the Klitschko's.
     
  13. HENDO

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    But Gavern is a terrible fighter. Ozqueda or whatever his damn name was easily landing right hands, but since Ozqeuda hits like a girl, they didn't o **** to Gavern.

    There is no doubt that Boystov is heavy handed, so an off balance guy like Gavern would be made for him.
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Boytsov is not ready for Klitschkos, but Boytsov would knock Haye out right now. Chambers would beat Haye.
     
  15. RightCross

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    Im pretty high on Boytsov. I like how he has been moving along. I wouldnt be surprised to see him Duck wlad for a while though. He is young and time is on his side. Put together another year or two of good wins and he will be a title challenger.

    He is probably the strongest title contender out there at the moment.