If not Roach who would have been a better coach for Pacquiao?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PIPO23, Jul 20, 2018.


Page 1 of 2
  1. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,883
    6,243
    May 18, 2006
    As we all know Roach was the only trainer that took on Manny Pacquiao.

    No other trainer wanted the Filipino fighter when he went to the USA.They all refused to train the youngster. But is there really better trainers that would have been better for a young Manny Pacquiao? Who?

    Goosen maybe Robert Garcia that's the only trainers i can think of..
     
    PIPO23, Jul 20, 2018
    PIPO23, Jul 20, 2018
    #1
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

    27,259
    18,341
    Feb 4, 2012
    Well just pick someone who prioritises offence and they'd prob have been a good fit. Never really rated Roach the same way a lot of others do. Futch liked him though so what do I know.
     
    Sugar 88, Jul 20, 2018
    Sugar 88, Jul 20, 2018
    #2
  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

    6,300
    5,643
    Feb 19, 2018
    Nacho Beristain.

    Robert Garcia.

    In that order.
     
    Tomato(e) Can, Jul 20, 2018
    Tomato(e) Can, Jul 20, 2018
    #3
  4. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

    60,123
    5,606
    Nov 5, 2013
    Fmsr
    Roger
    Steward
    Virgil

    Not Freddie The Joke Coach Roach
     
    MVC!, Jul 20, 2018
    MVC!, Jul 20, 2018
    #4
  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,543
    18,231
    Oct 7, 2006
    Likely Nacho. Would have made him a lot more dimensional.
     
    IsaL, Jul 20, 2018
    IsaL, Jul 20, 2018
    #5
    Love2box likes this.
  6. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,155
    888
    Feb 28, 2009
    i think manny steward be good for anyone.
     
    cippi, Jul 20, 2018
    cippi, Jul 20, 2018
    #6
  7. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    3,607
    2,860
    Jun 15, 2012
    There’s a story that went around a while ago that Teddy Atlas tried to get Manny to hire him but Manny wasn’t interested.
     
    Gil Gonzalez, Jul 20, 2018
    Gil Gonzalez, Jul 20, 2018
    #7
    SnatchBox likes this.
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,033
    4,323
    Nov 18, 2009
    Cus would have really turned him into Ippo Makunouchi!
     
    thesmokingm, Jul 20, 2018
    thesmokingm, Jul 20, 2018
    #8
    SnatchBox likes this.
  9. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

    5,426
    4,686
    Nov 26, 2016
    Manny doesn't believe in Magick
     
    SnatchBox, Jul 20, 2018
    SnatchBox, Jul 20, 2018
    #9
    Pretty Boy Floyd likes this.
  10. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

    36,270
    33,086
    Feb 16, 2013
    Yeah I agree, in the style of Atlas all I have to to say is..


    Manny is a Sand castle on a beach, the tide I see coming in and Manny can see the tide is coming in and he knows he can't stop it.

    So Manny shows the heart of a warrior, a true warrior who is about to be killed by the enemy but accepts his fate and faces his deepest fear and darkest moment with courage and honour.

    Your average joe will never know what it's like to be that sand castle on the beach, seeing that tide coming in and not being able to stop it.

    Your average joe will never know how it feels to be a warrior who has had the greatest victories and devasting defeats.

    But that's what we are, we are sand castles, we are fighters, we are professionals, WE ARE WARRIORS and it's the life we chose and the life that chose us.
     
    N17, Jul 20, 2018
    N17, Jul 20, 2018
    #10
    Inside pass, SnatchBox, Gil Gonzalez and 1 other person like this.
  11. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,883
    6,243
    May 18, 2006
    Nacho would have kicked him out of the gym in 2 weeks and refuse to train him.

    I am taking Robert Garcia on my post back. Because I reckon he too would
    have kicked Pacquiao out of the gym.

    Goosen and Emmanuel Steward would have been great.
     
    PIPO23, Jul 20, 2018
    PIPO23, Jul 20, 2018
    #11
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    Where do you get that no trainer wanted him?
     
    divac, Jul 20, 2018
    divac, Jul 20, 2018
    #12
    Sphillips likes this.
  13. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,883
    6,243
    May 18, 2006
    It's no secret at the time and even now no top world trainers want to train Filo boxers. Discrimination is kinda of part of it.

    Only ROACH saw no nationality or color and was just strictly boxing. Pacquiao fought to bring down that barrier. Many other Filo boxers got opportunity because of Emmanuel Dipidran Pacquiao.
     
    PIPO23, Jul 21, 2018
    PIPO23, Jul 21, 2018
    #13
  14. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,828
    1,414
    Jul 19, 2017
    Nacho yes, Grandpa Garcia no. How many times has a Grandpa Garcia trained fighter failed to make weight? Plus I’m not sure he could’ve handled the circus (hangers on) that come with Manny.
     
    J Jones, Jul 21, 2018
    J Jones, Jul 21, 2018
    #14
  15. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

    4,474
    3,857
    Sep 21, 2012
    I agree no one wanted him, but I thought it was because he had losses on his record and by way of stoppage. He was seen as nothing special.
    Question:
    Do you know who took to him first, Murad the promoter or Freddie the trainer?

    I do remember Roach helped Pac part ties with Murad, accused him of stealing money, while Murad countered it was Freddie who wanted to be more than a trainer, he wanted a piece of Pac's worth.
    In the end, we know he parted ways with Murad and took on Arum. I could search the net, but will see who here knows who hooked up with Pac first.
     
    Tramell, Jul 21, 2018
    Tramell, Jul 21, 2018
    #15
Page 1 of 2