If only Edwin Valero was alive, he'd be steamrolling these fighters at 135/140...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011.


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  1. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    You were most definitely not clear, as I noted that you seemed to flip flop on your definition of "dominating". I suggest rereading what you wrote.

    Regardless, DeMarco barely did anything relative to Valero, who landed the harder, cleaner punches in every round, sweeping my scorecard. That in my eyes counts as dominating. If you don't agree and want to play semantics, then go ahead. But I'm not going to keep arguing such petty matters and keep bumping this thread to dispute the definition of "dominating".
     
    charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011
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  2. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    That's true, but that was about 3 years ago against a clearly weight-drained Pacquiao. JMM has been in 2 wars since. Not to mention a failed attempt at 147.
     
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  3. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    the epitome of overrated, he smashed the bums he fought but fought nobody of any note, and as said earlier he has the rockstar effect of dying young etc.
     
    LocoRoco, Jan 21, 2011
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  4. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    I was first sold on Valero because I saw the Mosquera fight... If you've seen it, then you'll know why Valero is rated so highly by some.
     
    charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Mosquera wasn't all that, though. It isn't hard to look like a beast when matched right.
     
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  6. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this, but I did thnk Valero was the real deal.
     
    des3995, Jan 21, 2011
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  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At 135 he might have been the top guy. He would've beaten Soto, Guerrero, Rios, and Katsidis for sure. Might have scored an upset over old man Marquez, but its not a certainty.

    At 140 its a different story. I'm confident that Bradley would have beaten him, and probably Alexander as well. Maidana I think would have stopped him in a war.

    Khan could possibly outbox him, but theres also a chance Valero would have starched Con.

    He eventually breaks Ortiz mentally, most likely.

    Pacquiao? LMAO! Yeah.... keep believing Valero would have a chance if you want to. Manny would have saved him the trouble of hanging himself, and instead would have served his wife justice by publicly executing him.
     
    Xplosive, Jan 21, 2011
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  8. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    just another case of shoulda coulda woulda. happens alot in boxing. bradley, alexander, maidana, khan are all doin it up big.
     
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  9. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get real...
     
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  10. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    :deal:good Valero was the man. He was the goods. He would of went to work on all them boys!! :fire:fire
     
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  11. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    I'm waiting for the Soto Fan Club charter member, president, and treasurer to debate slugger now that the two respective biggest fans have appeared in the thread.
     
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  12. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Im leaving in 10 min. to pick up my date. I'll book mark this thread! I'll be back tomorrow. Wheres aztecs? I'll rip into that sissy boy tomorrow. Soto sucks! :lol: LOL jk
     
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  13. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Soto is a fighter i like and respect a lot but at 135 the power isnt there as much and he could be susceptible

    Bradley maybe, Bradley is not great in any category but he is a solid fighter and a work horse also Valero was wild and may eat good clean blows though Bradley has been down from lesser punchers

    Alexander is probably too fast and would catch him like Urango

    Khan idk either a Valero KO or Khan UD just depends how Khan holds up if he does he wins on points

    Pacman no way, maybe at 130 but not vs the 135 and up version
     
    KO KIDD, Jan 21, 2011
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  14. samita

    samita El Temible Full Member

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    valero would've stopped his wife on cuts earlier if the proposed fight against soto took place.
     
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  15. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    .........ffffffffff....oooooooooooooooooo......:think
     
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