If Oscar De La Hoya never lost. Would he be the GOAT?

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    If Floyd took all the risks Oscar did he wouldn't be undefeated lets just say that.... Oscars resume>>>> Floyds..
     
  2. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    What if Fraizer has stayed on his stool 5 seconds longer & Ali retired instead?

    Fraizer would have been 2 & 1 against Ali.... History would have looked at Ali & Fraizer very differently.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    The facts are that he did not but even more damning is that his performance level significantly depreciated when you put him in even fighters. He was akin to a flat track bully.
     
  4. mishima

    mishima Guest

    no because of nostalgia
     
  5. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why is a hypothetical question trying to spark a debate on a boxing FORUM a stupid question you inbred ****? :patsch
     
  6. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That would make DLH top 3 in my mind.....How could DLH top the Great Sugar Ray Robinson? Even by beating Shane, BHOP, Tito, Pac, Whitaker, Vargas, Floyd, IKE, and JCC...oh and Strum.....those were hid BIG fights.....It would've been amazing, but Robinson's Run was more incredible based on how far ahead of his time he was.
     
  7. masterold

    masterold Active Member Full Member

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    You also have to think certain fights wouldn't happen had Oscar won, eg if he beat Hopkins in 04 he likely would have stayed at 160 or even retired. Had he beaten Mayweather in 07 there would have been a rematch, no Pacquiao fight etc.
     
  8. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    GOAT indeed. with the wins over mayweather and Hopkins.
     
  9. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Not GOAT.

    But no doubt raises his ATG status in another stratosphere.

    We can even forget his tenure at 130 and he'd still be there.

    Has anyone seen turbo around? He might have a say in this thing.
     
  10. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wins over Mayweather, Pac, Mosley, Trinidad and Hopkins with no losses would have made oscar #1 in my opinion. The fights he lost were all to ATG's.
     
  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Oscar would forget a Pac fight if he won against Mayweather.

    Oscar would forget a Mayweather fight if he won against Hopkins.
     
  12. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    You can apply this to a handful of fighters - Duran, Hearns, etc.
    Not necesarrily GOAT, but a good case for top 10, if not top 5. Duran would certainly be in discussion of top 3 if he never was beaten by SRL, Hagler, Benitez, Pazienza, Camacho and Hearns. I mean that is GOAT material there.

    For Oscar? Hmmm, sure arguable if the current 30 ATG's resume stays the same.

    But think about it, if Pac, Hopkins and Tito all lose to Oscar, how would they stand in the ATG list and thus how does that affect Oscar in return?


    A lot of what ifs but in my mind, his resume is ATG, his wins though is another matter.
     
  13. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That means he would have wins against Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Money and Pacquiao...in addition to Chavez Sr., Whitaker, Camacho, Quartey, etc., etc. He'd have a really strong case IMO...top 3 p4p at the very least.
     
  14. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar's career would include victories from 130 to 160, with wins over Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Mayweather, etc. He would be #1 or #2 of all time.