If Oscar De La Hoya was Fighting today

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    De La Hoya wasn`t born in Mexico, is he of Mexican descent?
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saunders would have eaten him anyway.
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That was the excuse the cowards needed when that worthless POS blatantly lied about : PLASTER BLOCKS
    No one can produce one iota of proof Tony EVER cheated or even TRIED to cheat BU wadT your Ginger headed little punk Popped dirty TWICE!!! PROVOING he is a firty little cheat
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG and Canelo would have done far better against Hopkins than De La Hoya did, Canelo`s body shots would also have been too much for Oscar the same as B-Hop`s full bloodied middleweight bodyshot was too much DLA`s smaller trunk, he just wasn`t built for middle.
     
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  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Didnt he appky for Mexican citizenship a few years back ???
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right back at ya champ.

    **No one can produce one iota of proof Canelo EVER cheated or even TRIED to cheat**

    But Tony was caught with loaded gloves. Whether or not Tony himself had anything to do with that we can't know for sure, but the wraps were proven to be not legal.

    Canelo testing for trace amounts of clenbuterol "out of competition" (Hi BJS fans) in a country with a huge well known meat contamination problem does not prove that Canelo in any way shape or from cheated or even tried to cheat.

    FWIW C.J. I'm not condemning Tony at all. I'm merely stating the perception that was out there about Tony cheating. No one wanted to fight him because they heard about the loaded gloves and they didn't want to fight a cheater and get their face bashed in by bricks.

    What Tony did to Cotto is honestly sad. He took the prime out of Cotto with those loaded gloves and Cotto was never the same fighter. Whether or not Tony knowingly cheated I don't know, but what he did to Cotto's face wasn't because of pure natural power. it was because his gloves were hard as bricks due to cheating. That's why Tony is known as a terrible cheater and Canelo isn't. Even though a lot of GGG fans give Canelo a hard time about clenbuterol and "Clenelo" and all that it's all out of bitterness and rivalry. With Tony he had bricks in his gloves and he beat Cotto's face to a pulp with those bricks. That's much much worse what Tony did, it's really no comparison C.J. That doesn't mean that I know as a fact that Tony had anything to do with it. But it stained Tony's reputation much worse than Canelo testing positive for trace amounts of clenbuterol in a meat contaminated country that's for sure.
     
  7. ZablieJudahnoff

    ZablieJudahnoff UBF CHAMP G.O.A.T Full Member

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    Oscar was a brave man, so he'd have fought anybody around his weight.
    He'd win some and lose some. GGG and Jacobs are most likely losses,but the CharlWHOs???
    glorified sparringsession for Oscar x 2.
     
  8. ZablieJudahnoff

    ZablieJudahnoff UBF CHAMP G.O.A.T Full Member

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    Too long,did not read, but Margarito did not cheat.
    proof was not in the pudding and especially not the wraps.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The perception was that he had loaded "bricks" in his gloves and was a terrible cheater. Whether Tony intentionally cheated I do not know, but the perception was that he did.
     
  10. Dario Argento

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    The perception was that Golovkin got screwed by Oscar and his judges against Canelo
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only amongst the small but vocal hardcore GGG contingent. Tony having loaded gloves was the perception throughout the entire boxing community. That was also a much different time where social media and boxing groupies weren't as they are now.
     
  12. C.J.

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    this is the last time I respond to your idiocy ok
    Now tell me what was in those "loaded gloves" ?? According to the independent lab report they found " A damp used gauze padon which after MICROSCOPIC ANA:LYSIS trace elements of calcium and sulphur were discovered THESE, WHILE IN MUCH LARGER QUANTITIES ARE INGREDIENTS OF PLASTER THEY ARE ALSO INGREDIENTS OF HUMAN SWEAT . THE CSAC FAILED TO SDD THE HUMAN SWEAT PART. IGUESS TO TRY TO SAVE FACE FOR THE FAUX PAS THEY MADE BELIEVING A LIAR . So much for loaded gloves.
    now go write stories to yourself sayonara shadow
     
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  13. ZablieJudahnoff

    ZablieJudahnoff UBF CHAMP G.O.A.T Full Member

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    They found a substance that can be found in moisturizers and a million other commonly used items, unfortunately also in "plaster".
    Maybe Margarito knew before,what he'd do to Cotto with his hands so he softened them up with moisturizer bcuz he did not want to permanentely reorganize crottos face bwahahaha
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm giving you a taste of your own medicine C.J. You repeatedly condemn Alvarez by saying he's been proven a drug cheat which is preposterous. You love to dish it out but you can't take it when it comes to Tony. And to be clear I am not condemning Tony. I do not know if he knowingly cheated. But I pointed out very accurately that fighters didn't want to fight him due to him being known as a brick yielding cheater. That was the perception C.J., you can't change that.

    If you want Tony to be given the benefit of the doubt then you shouldn't go around casting aspersions about Canelo when you have no flipping clue if he cheated or if it was meat contamination. Unlike you I have not condemned Tony only pointed out that he was known as a cheater due to having loaded wraps and that was why many fighters didn't want to fight him.

    And what he did to Cotto's career was a terrible thing C.J. Cotto was never the same fighter again and for you to brag about that as if that happened naturally is shameful.
     
  15. 22JM

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    Jose Luis Lopez, him and Tito didn't want nothing to do with him.
     

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