If Pac and Gamboa fought at the end of 2008...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Apr 28, 2008.


  1. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe we're over Pac now, but might you not in the past have said the same kind of stuff about him that you're now saying about Gamboa if Pac had had only a few fights against that kind of opposition? Hypothetically of course.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Gamboa is a really cocky fighter, I have a feeling hes not going to be really great until he gets his first loss.
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No, because Pac doesn't have the incredible amatuer pedigree, nor did he have the varied attack the first 3/4's of his career or the evident defensive prowess and timing.

    It's not just his performances against the C class opposition that I'm looking at here, even though he's disposed of them like an already established A level champ would have done.

    Even against limited opposition, evident vulnerabilities can come out in subtle ways, Pac's would have definitley shined out a little. It's also needed to add that Pac was the type that improved, nothing but a really raw talent for a good while.

    Gamboa's a reasonably refined talent, not a normal up and coming prospect.

    I'm setting myself up for crow to be served to me if I am wrong, as usual.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The Cuban 'I'm the leader of the pack warrior confidence', not insecure arrogance. This means he will fearlessly go after the best because he believes he is the best.
     
  5. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    if they meet this year i would have to go with pacquiao by ko/tko. aren't you too harsh on pac amsty? gamboa is still untested on top comp we are yet to see him go 12 full rounds. let the kid have more fights first before pitting him against proven fighters like pac. i am with you when it comes to gamboa being a future p4p superstar but pac as of this moment will beat him. and i am betting on that.
     
  6. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Yes, I think you are being unreasonable - and in fact I fear for Gamboa that this kind of stuff could actually happen before he even enters his 20th pro fight.

    As I have stated earlier - I foresee that Gamboa relives the life of Fernando Vargas.

    No doubt that Gamboa have awesome offensive qualities - but I would like to see how he fares, when put on defence. Right now he "just" goes for a quick knockout - which will be dangerous once he faces someone who can take what he throws and counterpunch.

    Having said all this, it would be an awesome fight, but really not the best career move for Gamboa I imagine.
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Fernando Vargas does not need to be put in the same notion with Yuriorkis Gamboa.
     
  8. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    is this a masked jab at pacDbest?
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    This is the beggining of the official full on promotion of a future legendary fighter that will represent everything that boxing should be about. Fight the best, old school style.

    Gamboa was already mentioning that he will soon be ready to fight the P4P top 3 Pacqauio whenever, don't you love that mentality?
     
  10. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gamboa is a wonderful fighter in the making, but he may be a little bit too green to go up against Pac right now. In a few years time, that may be different.

    Gamboa is very good at fighting in the middle of the ring. He's got descent power at 130 lbs. However, his weakness is finishing his opponent off when he's on the ropes. He's not like a Felix Trinidad or Kostya Tszyu that has the power punches and patience to finish off a fighter properly on the ropes and hurt. Gamboa fights as if he's in the middle of the ring when he tries to fight a fighter on the ropes. With time, and he's only 10 fights in, he'll undoubtly improve upon this.
     
  11. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    He will, if what you are suggesting rings true. Gamboa would be force forward way too fast. The fact that he already faces pretty good boxers already proves this - putting him against the likes of Pacman even before he enters his 15th would be like Vargas against Tito - only sooner. Pacman is several classes above what Gamboa has faced yet.

    Ask yourself - why is Vargas almost completely shot at a relative young age?

    We still don't know how well Gamboa is on the D.

    Look what happened to Tyson and Vargas and probably many more superbly skilled fighters. It ****s up their brain to know that they weren't invincible after all.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Tyson - ATG HW, arguably the best H2H HW. Really bad, made 400 million dollars and is the 2nd most known boxer to Muhammad Ali of all time. Accomplished zero.

    Vargas, his style is half the problem.

    3) Gamboa's defensive prowess is fantastic, you cannot write this ****.

    4) In terms of calling a fighters level, I am the best at this.
     
  13. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes, this is the mentality we all greatly respect and an out look all fighters should have. i've been a gamboa supporter since finding out about him last year. but at the moment pac is too seasoned in big fights, championship round esperience and has faced adversity. in regards to pac, most questions have been anwered. gamboa still about to answer his questions.
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :tired

    Come on, join the fun.:good
     
  15. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Firstly I never stated that neither Tyson nor Vargas accomplished nothing. Both could have accomplished more had they been proberly managed.

    Tyson's reign was still only 4 years. He only earned so much because people loved to see him fight, even when a shell of his former self. Vargas degraded into a B- or less fighter. If you can't acknowledge that then I don't know.

    3) Sorry I haven't seen them in the fights I have seen - only the fact that he goes for knockouts using his great power and speed to overwhelm his opponents. In doing so, I haven't seen his D at all. His offence is his defence - thus far.

    4) That might be so - however - I am not disputing Gamboas skills at all. But suggesting that he faces a P4P #1-2 boxer this year suggests that you haven't thought this through.