If Pac beats Marg, does his weight-jumping top Hearns, Duran, RJJ and Oscar?

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  1. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you already know what margo gonna weigh come fight night?

    So if margo comes in under 160 i guess there was a rehydration clause?
     
  2. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Means next to nothing.

    In 3-4 of those divisions he's done absolutely nothing.

    How can you class lightweight? Junior middle?
     
  3. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Duran isnt fair..he didnt have the extra weight classes....if he did he would have done the same already!
     
  4. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao had a rehydration clause in his deal against both Oscar and Cotto, to ensure they came in very light.

    He will probably have the same thing with margarito?

    John Ruiz was 35 pounds heavier than Roy Jones?! For you *******s, that's the equivilant of Donaire facing Joe Calzaghe in a bout

    Boxers have to face 15 pound weight advantages all the time. Zab Judah was 23 pounds down on Josh Clottey when they fought. Here him crying about weight?
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Always finding a way to hate.

    Here's another angle:

    FLW - Beat lineal champ.

    BW - String of defenses and beat the no.2 in the division.

    FW - Beat, sorry, anihilated a legend and p4p #3 Barrera and drew with HOF JMM.

    SFW - Beat the 3 great mexicans, not many weight jumpers who beat as many legends in 1 division as many times.

    LW - fair enough, paper title, still as if Ruiz was spectacular himself.

    JWW - Smashed the lineal champ who was considered to be one of the greats at that weight.

    WW - He beat a top fighter. Plenty of catchweight fights out there, SRL won 2 titles in 2 different weights for the same fight :lol:

    JMW - Yea paper title...but again, lots of paper champs out there.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets stick to facts ******. Because when you dont stick to facts it becomes a bit silly.

    Duran let SRL win so that win doesnt count. Hearns let SRL win. Ruiz let RJJ win. Hey dont need facts, just gonna put it out there and use it in an argument as if its actually viable.

    Absolutely no proof of it, neither Oscar or Cotto mentioned rehydration clauses and they would be the first to use it as excuse.
     
  7. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just can't compare Pacquiao to guys like Jones and De la Hoya for moving weight classes.

    He's never really owned divisions.Or dominated them. He's had his ass handed to him in at least 3 of them, in two of them he's won paper titles, against no-marks

    If you're talking divisions where Manny has stepped up, and beaten a real recognized, worthwhile champ, I give him about 3-4 divisions.
     
  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: You *****'s are really making yourselves look ******ed by arguing this way. This is as silly as me in saying Floyds previous 40 opponents have all been paid off to lose. There is 0 evidence.

    Are you lacking in argumentative skills that much you are actually resorting to making up imaginary bs? :rofl

    ****in hillarious.
     
  9. whoupicking?

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    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Jones Jr...getting up to HW after taking titles at 60 68 and 75 is something else...HW IS UNLIMITED...
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sasakul = 1 (Lineal)
    Ledwaba = 2
    Barrera = 3
    JMM = 4
    Hatton = 5
    Cotto = 6.

    3-4? Learn to count.
     
  12. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't you just say margo coming in the fight at 165.:lol:

    So if that the case, we can safely agree if he comes in under 160 there is a good reason why. Rehydration clause could be one of them.
     
  13. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bump
     
  14. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man, what Pacland spin.

    Flyweight - made one defence of a belt, before getting destroyed!

    Bantamweight - was losing to Agapito Sanchez, when the fight was stopped on an accidental cut. Got a very lucky draw. Refused to rematch him, and left the division

    Featherweight - beat Barrera, and was giving a hiding by Marquez. 50/50 there

    Super Feather - got destroyed by Morales. By the time he beat him, Morales was coming off 2 losses in his last 3 fights, and went on to lose the next 4 after Pacquiao. Shot basically. Got beaten up by Marquez again.

    Seriously, the only meaningful fights Pacquioa had aat 130 was Barrera 1, Morales 1 and Marquez 2 and he got beaten up in 2 of the 3

    140 - Hatton had already been destroyed by Mayweather, nearly got knocked out in his comeback as well, and hadn't beaten much at the weight in years. Was only still 140 ring champ, because he had been fighting for Floyd's 147 belts, so never lost it when he was outclassed.
     
  15. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's 110% fact. Pacquiao did have rehydration clauses in both the Cotto and De la Hoya fight.

    It's mentioned by pundits all the time.

    Do you think Oscar just chose to enter the ring 20 pounds underweight!?