if Pac beats Oscar, is he a GREATER fighter than Floyd?

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  1. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

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    Im not sure why this would even be a question, Pac's accomplishments **** on Floyds any day
     
  2. SugarShane_24

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    Personally, i still have PBF above Pac. But should he beat DLH, especially a comprehensive win, then there's no question about it.
     
  3. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    theres no way pac is greater than floyd. pacquiao is a good fighter but he aint even close to being a better fighter than floyd.

    I'll compare them on what they have achieved in boxing and there resumes.

    Manny Pacquiao's Achievements:
    • Former Fkyweight champion of the world
    • Former Super bantamweight champion of the world
    • Former Featherweight champion of the world
    • Former Jr Lightweight champion of the world
    • Curren Lightweight champion of the world
    • Currently ranked P4P#1 fighter in the world
    Floyd Mayweather Achievements:
    • Former Jr Lightweight champion of the world
    • Former Lightweight champion of the world
    • Former Jr Welterweight champion of the world
    • Former Undisputed Welterweight champion of the world
    • Former Jr Middleweight Champion of the world
    • Former P4P#1 fighter in the world
    • And he is Undefeated
    Manny Pacquiao's Resume:
    • Marco Antonio Barrera I - He destroyed the mexican legend in 11 rounds, he was on another level that night and Barrera could not handle him.
    • Juan Manuel Marquez I - Pacquiao knocked him down 3 times in the first round, but failed to finish Marquez off, Pacquiao escaped with a disputed draw
    • Erik Morales I - Manny challenged a past peak Morales, the fight was incredible and it could have gone either way, but the decision went to Morales.
    • Erik Morales II - Morales was coming off a loss to the unknown Zahir Raheem, and he says that Pacquiao beat him because he was weight drained as he found it difficult to make 130. but all in all a good performance by pacquiao against a bad morales.
    • Erik Morales III - By the time the third fight came around Morales was officially shot and finished.
    • Marco Antonio Barrera II - Manny chooses to fight a Marco Antonio Barrera that had been gifted two disputed decisions over contender Rocky Juarez, and had recently lost to Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao took the victory with ease and barrera looked like a shadow of his former self.
    • Juan Manuel Marquez II - Manny gives Marquez the rematch that he deserved, Throughout the fight it was clear to see that Marquez was the better fighter, and the majority of people believe that he won the fight.
    Floyd Mayweather's resume:
    • Diego Corrales - Mayweather takes a huge risk in his short boxing carreer and fights the dangerous and undefeated Corrales. Mayweather in arguabally his greatest boxing performance put on a boxing masterclass, and in doing so he knocked corrales down 5 times on his way to a tenth round knockout.
    • Jose Luis Castillo I - In a close and competetive first fight with castillo, floyd left with a disputed unanimous decision.
    • Jose Luis Castillo II - Floyd wanted to prove his doubters wrong and gave castillo and immediate rematch, in the second fight it was a clear victory to the counter punching floyd mayweather.
    • Arturo Gatti - Some may say that Gatti was shot, but that is become Floyd made him look really bad. Gatti was coming into the fight of two knockout victories over the undefeated leonard dunn, and jesse james lejia. Floyd destroyed gatti in 6 one sided rounds.
    • Zab Judah - Zab was coming off a loss to carlos baldomir, but floyd was more than good enough to give zab judah a boxing masterclass. and if it wasn't for the low blow many people believe that floyd would have knocked zab out.
    • Carlos Baldomir - Floyd challenges the undisputed welterweight champion and hands him a beating. the counter punching mayweather made baldomir look silly throughout the fight.
    • Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd challenges de la hoya in his first fight at jr middleweight, in the biggest fight the sport has ever seen floyd won a clear decsion.
    • Ricky Hatton - On his return to 147 floyd gave the dangerous and undefeated ricky hatton a shot at his title, Floyd controlled the whole fight which ended in a superb tenth round knockout.
    Now its clear on both these points that floyd is the better fighter, his achievements and resume are greater than pacquiao's.
     
  4. fastfist

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    ... and he even forgot to include the win against Oscar. That was the main question.
     
  5. Monstar

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    Pac 6division Champ......Erik Morales, JMM, MAB

    Mayweathers biggest name is Oscar, aside from him nobody else on his resume even comes close to those 3 names
     
  6. NALLEGE

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    Kostya Tszyu has names on his resume, but we are talking substance. The only competitive fighters who gave PAc a fight were Morales, J.M.M, and Agipito Sanchez. Barrera never showed up for the first fight, and actually did better in the rematch. Barrera was past it the first time, and even more past it the second time.
     
  7. Imperial1

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    MAB went on to beat Morales in a 3rd fight he was not past it in their first fight and im a big MAB fan !!

    All in all Manny will have the better legacy as far as fights MW will have the better legacy as far as skill !
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    You're not a big Barrera fan lol... Manny only has 3 legit names on his resume along with a list of inferior comp and no hopers. He even lost to one of those past it greats. People say Pac has the better names on his resume than Floyd lol. You can only refer to 3 names on PAc's resume. None of which who was in the middle of career in the prime of their life with the exception of J.M.M. That's it lol...
     
  9. gottagivafight

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    Here, here!
     
  10. Jbuz

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    Barrera was not past it in the first fight. He certainly seemed to underestimate Pac, but there is no doubt that he was in his prime in my view. Marquez was primed, and Morales was a bit past it.
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    I can respect that. :good
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Pacman beats Mayweather on popularity & p4p punch power... THATS IT !
    Mayweather beats Pac in EVERYTHING else.

    If they were the same size, Pac would get outboxed thoroughly, of course he may have moments but for 85-90% of the fight he would get outsmarted, countered & made to look like what he is... a solid warrior with plenty of heart that can go toe to toe with the best of the best but lacks the subtle boxing skills at an A+ aswell as the boxing brain to compete with one of the most talented technical boxers ever in FMJ.

    Anyone who doesnt see this is dumb.

    As far as if Pac beats DLH, will he be greater than FMJ ?.... possibly more than probably but only in acheivement, not boxing ability... & thats possibly, not probably, it would really depend on how it went down vs DLH IMO. A gift decision or something along those sort of lines simply wouldnt be enough.


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  13. mexican legend

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    He already is. If he beats DLH that would be the funniest thing I have ever seen and I hope it happens.
     
  14. Simple100

    Simple100 Active Member Full Member

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    :good well said
    just imagine how big PAC balls for facing bigger ODLH :happy:happy:happy:happy
     
  15. konaman

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    Would depend on how he won it to be honest, but maybe.