if Pac beats Oscar, is he a GREATER fighter than Floyd?

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  1. brownshell

    brownshell Active Member Full Member

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    Pac would only be doing what PBF has already done. He'd be doing to a older Oscar than Floyd beat. Albeit coming from an even lower weight.
     
  2. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Snarky

    Snarky New Member Full Member

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    Too many if's for me surrounding Floyd's legacy according to his fanboys
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    One thing that can't be an if is He was undefeated. Linear in 3 weights title holder in 2 P4P #1 for 3 years top 10 P4P for 10 years ring fighter of the year for 1998 and 2007 never knocked down or really hurt in a fight and one of the best fighters of his era and would school Pac in a fight like he did the man in your avatar.:deal
     
  5. Snarky

    Snarky New Member Full Member

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    :good Definitely, but he was officially knocked down, but not legitimate so I sort of agree, he's been buzzed but to me that's more impressive than never really been buzzed since it has been very rarely and he handled it better than most fighters. He is one of the best fighters of his era and the runner up to be considered the best and although he did school the guy in my avatar (both of them ironiaclly) I think we should wait and see how Pacquiao does at welter before we conclude that a retired fighter would schoold him as well as he did to Hatton.
     
  6. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    in terms of resume maybe
    in terms of skill level no
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    It doesn't matter who is more exciting, who is the better human being, who is an *******, etc.

    I'm talking who is the better fighter. Pac is a better fighter than Floyd. If they were to meet, Floyd might win because he is much bigger, but if it weren't for the size difference, Pac would beat Floyd.

    What Floyd did to Corrales, Pac did it to Barrera. What Morales did to Pac, Castillo did it to Floyd.

    People bring up Pac's KO losses when he was a teenager but IMO that **** doesn't matter because Pac was not trained in the amateurs, he was trained in the pros from the start.

    As for his loss against Morales: Moving up in weight against Morales, getting a nasty cut by a headbutt early in the fight, and then losing by 2 points against Morales. Anyone else would have got their asses KTFO. Floyd has that fight against Castillo doesn't he? Morales is head and shoulders above Castillo.
     
  8. Monstar

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    IMO he's already greater as well

    meaning he's proves it time in and out against the odds
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    until Floyd beat Oscar, alot of people had Pac as p4p#1.

    Maybe 30%, maybe even more. Y'all must of forgot.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No ****ing way.:nono JMM had Pac all over the place and he's no where in PBF' league as far as counter-punching, speed or defense. PBF would eat a come foward guy like Pac with no defesne and no jab for lunch. PBF would counter the hell outta Pac and have him clueless as to how to solve this puzzle with his ring generalship, movement and defense. PBF's superior to Pac in everything if both were the same size except power he gets a boxing lesson period.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair enough. That knock down was bull**** against Hernadez because PBF took a knee after hurting his hand after throwing a punch.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac is the one who had JMM all over the place. And JMM is a technical MASTER. Everyone knows that.

    btw Judah gave PBF all sorts of trouble with his in and out southpaw style and his fast straight left hand. And he also knocked down Floyd with a counter right hook which Pac has a sick one in his arsenal. Pac is like the REAL Super Judah. PBF had to take the fight to Judah to beat him and if he did that against Pac he would get KTFO (if they were the same size).
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Bull**** Name em! Pac nuthuggers maybe but that's it.:lol: The ring most definitely didn't and neither did ESPN as well as any other reputable sources.:deal
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    you must've forgot. I'm not talking about forum fans and such, I'm talking about boxing writers. If you really think there was always a big gap between Floyd and Pac then you are seeing what you want to see and not what is really there.
     
  15. Pimp C

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    PBF had a strategy going into that fight with Zab and that was Zab is a front runner he's no good after 6 rounds or so and that's what PBF did. He split the first 4 rounds with Zab and then systematically broke Zab down over the course of the fight he executed his gameplan to perfection and would have stopped Zab if not for the low blow in the 10th. Horrible comparison.

    BTW JMM has given Pac fits with his style often outboxing him at will. PBF is much better than JMM and would do it as well but wouldn't be bothered by his speed as much because he has much better defense and chin and can answer back with his own blazing speed with accuracy.