If Pac does manage to land a full-blooded shot on Floyd's chin, will he KO Floyd??

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  1. kd_helix

    kd_helix oooh la la.. Full Member

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    this fight reminds me when brazil and germany faced each other in the soccer world cup.
    those teams were so good and each has its best players: Brazil has the best offense (striker Ronaldo) and Germany has the best defense (goalkeeper Oliver Khan)

    i am not a football fan, but i was hooked up in that match because of the hype and historical significance of that match.. 2 superpower of football..

    i think this will also likely to happen on this fight.. casual fans around the world will be watching on this once in a lifetime boxing mega event.:bbb:happy
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. Partly because it was ruled a slip and Zab probably wasn't sure. They had had similiar twist ups in the fight.

    Still, I just don't see Manny landing twice. The only shot available is that over the top left hook. I haven't seen any fighter land it twice.

    I also personally think Zab is faster than Manny or Mayweather.
     
  3. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    floyd took a a few flush shots from a 160lb+ odlh in 8oz gloves...
     
  4. Sug3

    Sug3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Riddle me this, do you think the same mayweather that fought oscar can beat the new and improved manny pacquiao?, the floyd that fought oscar is the best floyd u gonna see,don't let the hatton and marquez fight fool ya,because they were the smaller guy's vs floyd.Cotto hits harder than mayweather and throws more combinations,pacquiao has the footwork to keep up with floyd,but the question is doe's mayweather have the heart to beat pacquiao,because pacman will make floyd use his legs like never before.Mayweather thought that oscar made him work,floyd's in for a suprise against pacquiao.
     
  5. WeezyF27

    WeezyF27 Active Member Full Member

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    hahaha pac is going to get knocked the **** out..
     
  6. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PBF is a certified runner. if he feels the POWER of pac the more he will RUN!
    If the fight gets BORING there is only one boxer to blame!
     
  7. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Pac did not have the footwork to keep up with and corner Cotto when he was hurt. Cotto was jabbing and winning when he was moving. Pac did not have the footwork to corner Barrera. Floyd's footwork is not straight ahead lunging like Pacman. Bouncing back and forth. Pac cant cut off the ring. Pac fought 3 straight fighters that will stand in front of him and fight just as Freddie Roach said. Pacman cant use a jab nor his height or reach to back Floyd up and make him work. You are a ****ing ******* and dont know **** about boxing. Listen some ****ing times.. Did you watch the Williams Martinez fight.. probably ****ing not. Steward said nobody can put pressure on you like a taller fighter. Just the size alone and their range can be imposing. Thats why they say "impose his size on them". :rofl And there is something called counter punching and there is something called holes in the defense.. Pac is a sucker for a counter punch and has many holes in his defense. He is going to get boxed the **** up and shipped back in his wapakman suit back to the phillipines.
     
  8. WAYKURAT

    WAYKURAT Active Member Full Member

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    pac has only one chance to win...by KOed floyd...
     
  9. WAYKURAT

    WAYKURAT Active Member Full Member

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    "that's defense" - floydettes
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd's chin looked solid.

    Zab never seriously bothered Floyd. A left hand did a bit of damage, the right hook was entirely balance.

    Corley caught a temple shot, and ten seconds later went back to being on the recieving end of a downhome ass beating.

    Pacquaio needs to throw in combination. Because, no, shot for shot, he lacks the power and the ability to beat Floyd. Its the speed, the fury, and the volume thats gonna be the ticket.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void will not fight, he will hold, lay on ropes, tell the referee what to do, etc., like Mosley said, Void is boring. All Void has to do is be standing at the end of the fight, he judges and referee will take care of him.
     
  12. haglerforever

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    no way one paquioa punch takes him out ,even if he is fortunate enough to land a solid power shot. This question does make wonder has any boxer carried or even increaesed their power as they moved up wt classes.most lose ko power ???
     
  13. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/86/i...arcelona-v-inter-get-ready-for-the-pacquiao-v

    Pacquiao vs Mayweather Jr promises to be one of the biggest fights in boxing history, and Carlo Garganese explains how the clashes of style, status and character make their bout comparable to the huge Barcelona vs Inter clash in the Champions League on Tuesday night.

    In the maroon and blue corner we have Barcelona – reigning European champions, reigning Spanish champions, reigning Spanish cup champions, reigning European Super Cup champions, soon-to-be world champions, and the No.1 pound-for-pound club team in the world.

    In the black and blue corner we have Internazionale – four times reigning Italian champions, current Italian championship leaders, and No.1 pound-for-pound club team in Italy.

    Also in the maroon and blue corner we have Manny Pacquiao – reigning WBO Welterweight World champion, IBO and Ring Magazine light welterweight champion, a winner of world titles in seven different weight divisions, and the current No.1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world.

    Also in the black and blue corner we have Floyd Mayweather Jr – former WBC Welterweight champion, a winner of world titles in five different weight classes, undefeated 40-and-0, and former No.1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world.

    For those of you who love your boxing, 2010 promises to be a special year as welterweights Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr appear almost certain to get into the ring for the most eagerly awaited fight of a generation. Even though nothing is yet set in stone, and any bout will probably not take place for at least five or six months, the build-up and anticipation has already begun with boxers, pundits, experts, and fans all debating who will win.

    Clash Of Styles

    What makes the prospect of this super-fight so fascinating is that it represents an emphatic clash of styles and personalities. The attacking, well-liked, humble, and entertaining Pacquiao against the defensive, unpopular, brash and efficient Mayweather. In many ways Pacquiao-Mayweather shares some uncanny similarities with the big Champions League tie between Barcelona and Inter on Tuesday night at Camp Nou.

    Barcelona champion attacking, jaw-dropping football in which style is usually more important than substance. Their tiki-taka, pass-and-move game, with one-twos, one-touches, is beautiful on the eye. The Blaugrana have fun, they play with a smile on their faces, and take the game to the opposition while showing no fear. Pacquiao’s boxing philosophy is very similar. The Filipino attacks his prey, makes all the offensive running, and employs an easy-on-the-eye approach with dazzling 8-10 combos showing frightening hand and foot speed as he dances around the ring like Lionel Messi jives around the football pitch.

    Inter, on the other hand, are best known for their tentative approach, studying their opponents weaknesses before focusing on their own strengths. It is up to their foe to make the spectacle, and you will often see the Nerazzurri launch counter-attacks. It is rare for Inter to string a succession of fluent passes together as they promote a results-first mentality. This has often seen the Beneamata labelled as ‘boring’.

    Which is a similar tag that has been pinned on Mayweather. The American may be a showman outside the ring, but inside it he is only worried about the result. The Pretty Boy’s main strength is his sometimes impenetrable defence, as exemplified by his shoulder roll tactics. He invites his adversary forward before hitting back with infrequent but scarily accurate counter-punches. Such is Mayweather’s patience and defensive nature that many of his fights often tend to be dull and ugly affairs, and you will not see him open up too often with combinations. But what you do get with Mayweather is efficiency.

    Size

    The physical difference between the two parties is also noticeable. Barcelona contain a large number of pint-sized players such as Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Dani Alves, Pedro and Messi, while their game is based on skill and technique. Inter have less guile about them, and prefer to push their weight around, a trait that many people believe is a reason they have often struggled in Europe. In terms of size, Mayweather has a big advantage, standing at 5ft 8in to Pacquiao’s 5ft 6½ in, with a reach advantage of 72in to 67in. With Pacman naturally much smaller, some experts say this could prove decisive. Yet it didn’t hinder the Filipino in recent fights as he moved up the weights to crush bigger men like Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. Similarly, the Barcelona trio of Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are tipped by many to finish in the Top 3 of this year’s Ballon d’Or, despite all being under 5ft 7in.

    Support

    In terms of support and fanbase, there are again many similarities. Barcelona play for Catalonia but they have the support of most neutrals due to the beautiful football they play. Pacquiao fights for the Philippines, but his exciting style means he also boasts the support of boxing fans all around the world.

    With regards to Inter, some would joke that they don’t play for Italy because they only have three Italians in their first team squad, while they only really have the support of their own fans and are not at all popular in wider circles. Mayweather is often accused of fighting for himself, and he is disliked even in the United States.

    Personality & Popularity

    Character and personality is also interesting. Pacquiao is a very humble person, who refuses to indulge in pre-and-post fight trash talking. It would be fair to say that Barcelona don’t have too many enemies within the game, and their current coach Pep Guardiola was universally praised for his conduct following the Champions League final win over Manchester United.

    Inter are not so P.R friendly. Super confident/arrogant Jose Mourinho has made himself an enemy to almost every Calcio figure since arriving in Italy last year, while the regular snipes of president Massimo Moratti towards Juventus and Milan, and regarding Calciopoli, has won him few friends over the last few seasons too. Mayweather has become infamous for his arrogance, earning himself the nickname Money Mayweather due to his boastfully lavish, materialistic lifestyle where he shows off his riches by counting his money and throwing it into the camera.

    Reputation

    Finally, we move onto status and reputation. This is where things get spicy. Barcelona are renowned as the best team in the world following their treble-winning antics of last season. Pacquiao is widely regarded as the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world. These successes are purely down to their own achievements. The Mexicutioner has never dodged an opponent – as proven by the list of illustrious fighters he has faced such as Juan Manuel Marquez, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera and, of course, Miguel Cotto who he destroyed in such devastating fashion 10 days ago.

    As for Inter, many people argue that their recent Italian dominance which has seen them win four Scudetti in succession has been more down to a power shift after the Calciopoli scandal that removed and weakened much of the opposition. In the case of Mayweather, the American’s perfect unbeaten record also clouds over reality.

    The 32-year-old has been incredibly selective throughout his career, only choosing opponents who were either small (Juan Marquez), old (Oscar De La Hoya, Marquez) or over-rated and over-sold (Ricky Hatton, Arturo Gatti). This has led him to being referred by some as ‘Fraud’ Mayweather. Despite being a Welterweight for so long, Floyd has continuously dodged top-quality fighters such as Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley and Cotto.

    When Barcelona welcome Inter to the Camp Nou, the whole world will be watching and everything will be at stake. Should the Spaniards fail to win, they will run the real risk of failing to qualify for the knockout round. Meanwhile, should the Italians lose they will have to win a tricky final game at home to Rubin Kazan to guarantee progression.

    Pacquiao is the best boxer in the world, while Barcelona are the best football team in the world. But a defeat for Pacquiao will see him lose that status to Mayweather, while a defeat for Barcelona will see them lose their tag and sit on the verge of CL elimination.

    In the words of the legendary ring announcer Michael Buffer: “Let’s get ready to rumble.”

    What are your views on this topic? Is Barcelona-Inter like Pacquiao-Mayweather? Who do you think will win both these clashes? Goal.com wants to know what YOU think…
     
  14. horst

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    The FMJ-JMM fight means nothing with regard to this fight, same as Pac-Oscar means nothing. JMM looked like he was four months pregnant, that fight was a meaningless tune-up between a welterweight and a guy who has had 2 fights at lightweight, it proved nothing whatsoever.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Its not so much that Mayweather beat Marquez, I could tell that Marquez body is not meant for 147, LW was likely his absolute limit, he was too slow vs Floyd, its not his weight, period.

    I studied the movements, speed, timing of Mayweather & tbh if anything, he looked a touch sharper than vs Hatton, he must have never left the gym since the Hatton fight from the way he looked.

    I think Pacquiao is in for a beating, boxing IS always a hard sport to predict but my money is on Mayweather in this one despite how brilliant Pac looked vs Cotto..... Cotto is not FMJ, not by a long way.