If pac does....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Leon, Apr 11, 2010.


  1. Irelandsthebest

    Irelandsthebest Active Member Full Member

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    He is which is why he is so highly ranked, but it doesn't change the fact that it is not his natural weight. Pac could also fight at heavyweight,would this then make him a natuaral heavyweight.It really is not that difficult to understand.:patsch
     
  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    His natural or prime weight where he'll be at his best, is 135/140. The dude forces himself to eat excessively to train and be at a competitive condition at the 147 mark. The physical (as well as skill) advantages are with Mayweather.
     
  3. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His ranking will go down few notches.

    But don't look now..Mosley is going to bring Floyd's tranking down by about 20 notches :yep
     
  4. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    he weighs in at welter, he is a welter


    if he was weighing in at 138 for a WW fight, then yeah, use the smaller guy argument all you want

    but if 145 is WW (in regards to cotto losing his belt at 145) then pac weighing in at 145 makes him a WW
     
  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was also holding belts at 140 and below. But I doubt Floyd would fight him below 147.
     
  6. Partaxian

    Partaxian Active Member Full Member

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    Case in point. PAC is the Jww champ, if it was his way, he would fight all these ww's at jww but instead he is forced to fight at 147. Fair enough but it proves that a 140lbee forced to fight at ww is very small ww.

    I find this quite funny too, for years pbf fans claimed pbf was a jww and a small ww, yet the man could not make 144 or even 145 vs jmm.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He will box circles around him. Log off fool.
     
  8. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course it affects his legacy....some fools already have the guy top 20 all-time, now thats a joke considering their are more than 20 fighters who have better resumes and were better fighters, and also fought in deeper eras

    People will bring up size but lets be honest, he started at 16 at flyweight and grew into his body. Mayweather was the same weight class as an amatuer at the same age. Basically it would prove he never was the best and just gotit by default
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If PBf thoroughly dominates him like I fully expect then his legacy will take a hit. People will see he was a guy who was carefully matched against guys who were there to be hit with slow hands no movement. Basically he avoided slick fighters for his career and when he finally fought an elite one he was exposed.
     
  10. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Diddo.....Pac-Man never decisively beat slick fighters...even a past prime Morales outboxed him....he never outright beat Marquez who suffered 3 kds in the first fight and still got a drawit has to effect his legacy losing to Mayweather considering most wont give credit to Mayweather being an all-time great, whereas they wanna put Pac-Man up there with the legends like Armstrong:patsch
     
  11. the prom queen

    the prom queen bitter and clinging Full Member

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    assuming that floyd gets the win over shane and the pac fight is made for this year; and floyd beats pac in similar fashion to the way b-hop beat pavlik, the effect that has on pacs legacy and ranking is pretty dependent on what he does AFTER the fight............if he moves back down to 140 and dominates for a year or two, or fights shane, berto and other top WW and wins in convincing fashion, it wont effect his legacy.....but if the defeat effects him like hamed's defeat to barrera or jones defeat at the hands of Tarver.......then yeah, it is gonna efffect his rankings among writers and historians fairly significantly
     
  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If PAC got dominated in the same way JMM did it wouldn't be favorable for his legacy. But with that said what PAC has done moving up and dominating will not be undone by loosing even if it was all one sided. IT would definitely drop his ATG ranking.
     
  13. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Winner of Floyd/Pac will determine the best boxer of this era.

    Both will be considered great but the winner will be the best and thus have a higher ATG ranking.

    This is why we care so much.

    /Thread.
     
  14. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Nope. Pac is a light-welterweight who has over-achieved at welterweight. Name another welterweight that climbs the ring at 149.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    ****ing hilarious. You bitches want to take full credit for his wins over welterweights but if he losses then he's too small. You can't have it both ways.