If PAC get toppled does he lose his lofty #1 P4P perch??

Based on past robberies this is hardly close to being one, this is a popular case of a very close fight which could have gone either way favoring a certain fighter, sounds fair if you ask me and people outside can cry all they want about how they saw the fight, officially everyone can agree that it's a close fight and when it's a very close fight with a winner being selected then it should be fair. A fight where a decision is pure bull**** is a fight like Whitaker/Chavez, this is hardly close to that fight, not even 0.01%.

Both fights were close and both had results, in the end the winner is Pacquiao and that should be accepted till a third fight happens. Even the first fight had it's share of controversy with the female judge admitting she made a mistake when she didn't score the first round 10-6 like the rest of the judges did and went for 10-7, meaning even that one was leaning towards Pacquiao.

 

actually that does mean its true.....thats why boxing has Judges, to decide who won the fight, and this is coming from someone who thinks Marquez was robbed of the 1st fight

 

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That's just being in denial then, if we're talking something similar to Lewis/Holyfield I or even as bull**** as Chavez Sr./Whitaker then sure I'll be the first to agree, this is hardly close to that.

 

PAC-JMM 2 was close until the championship rds where Marquez swept. He should of won. The other two fights u mentioned robbery in the utmost degree.

 

I personally gave both fights to Pacquiao by 1 point only and I'm a fan of both Marquez brothers, though admit I like Pacquiao more but it has nothing to do with my score.

Let's hope they make a third fight and even if they do I'm still sure many people will have shitloads of different scores and robbery cries unless Pacquiao knocks him out. You put two class A fighters in the ring and it ought to be close and competitive.

 

God Bless both fighters, they put on a real show and earned their paychecks. Pac's kd's may have won him those very close matches. They match up very well. I think Campbell will take over LW after the two stars. Then Valero does his thing.

 

Of course the KDs had a lot to do with him winning, that includes landing the harder punches by being the one to hurt JMM more than JMM hurt him.

Best of luck to Campbell and even Valero, I'm sure both will carry the division well enough and bring some entertaining fights, the division is hardly dead with Pac and JMM leaving, that's for sure.

 

If he took the fight, he needs to accept the consequences of a loss. And the best fighter in the world, does not remain so if he loses.

I know Oscar holds all the advantages. But Manny signed the damn paper, and if he's looking at the lights, I have no sympathy for him.

Marquez's win over JC is much superior to the David Diaz victory. Itd be close, but Id have JMM leap Pacquiao based on their recent results, and those would be Pacquiao beating the weakest lightweight titlist of the bunch by far and away, and losing to Oscar however he does it, and JMM knocking out the Ring Magazine Champion, and losing to Pacquiao by a hair.

JMM wins, in my book. But, we'll see what happens. I dont think this fight in sealed for ODLH, quite yet, and if Manny wins, he's the definition of p4p.

 

Hmmm....even if I'm a fan of Pac's, I'd have a hard time keeping him at number 1 if he loses. Short of a spectacular fight where he loses but the decision could have gone either way, I'd have to give the number 1 spot to JMM.

 

Yes he loses the spot, no it does not go to Marquez, Marquez is not top 5

 

Funny thing about this topic is that the people who are most stringently saying Pacquiao should not be demoted will be mostly the same ones who would have been most vocally demoting Mayweather had he lost the decision against De La Hoya.

Funny that.

 

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lets put it like this, just because you're ranked #1 pound for pound, it doesn't mean that you can beat every boxer in the world and vice versa.....

if that was the case then Vitali Klithcsko would be the #1 ranked fighter P4P...

because if you move up in weight enough times, there's always gonna be someone who can beat you, and they don't necessarily have to be the better fighter....


Mayweather would not beat Jermain Taylor...Marquez would not beat Joshua Clottey....Calzaghe would not beat David Haye....Hopkins would not beat Wladamir Klitchsko....and Israel Vasquez would not beat Juan Diaz

and this is the same situation, and of course you're not gonna say "Mayweather ducked Taylor" or "Calzaghe is ducking Haye"......because essentially it's just a mismatch, and thats what Pac-DLH is.....so even if Hopkins decides to move up and be a full heavyweight and fight Klitchsko and he loses....who cares?, why should he drop in the P4P rankings?

thats the whole point of being ranked "Pound for Pound"...just because a fighters better at a certain weight class, it doesn't mean he's the better fighter P4P

thats why i dont understand why DLH took the fight to begin with (money aside) because any reasonable person would give him ZERO credit for this victory

 

What's to not understand?

Hmm, he gets lots of money and zero credit.

Maybe, just maybe, he's more interested in money than credit at this point in his career...

That couldn't be it, could it?