If Pac struggles with Marquez (again)....

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    no this thread is about Gander asking the same exact question but about Floyd struggling with Ortiz and most Floyd fans acknowledged that Floyd's chances against Pac would look bad if he struggled with Ortiz, but you *******s just can't do it :-(

    If Pac struggles with Marquez, there would be so many things wrong with that
     
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  2. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly my point. But if you notice no *******s actually answered the damn question. :lol:
     
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  3. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because they don't have leverage.:rofl
     
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  4. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think that most fighters are against better testing?
     
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  5. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But why use leverage this way, then agree to do it two years later? And how could Roach have one fighter, Khan, take the tests, but say another doesn't have to? This is some bull****.
     
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  6. PH|LLA

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    Floyd does not do everything better than Marquez

    For example, Marquez throws better uppercuts than Floyd.

    He also throws better combinations.

    He is also less risk-averse.

    Like I said different styles.
     
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  7. MAIN

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    stays the same

    **** drinker is just that one guy that manny has a problem with

    many people have that "one" guy that they have problems with


    *superman beats incredible hulk but has trouble with metallo who gets crushed by the incredible hulk
     
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  8. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    leverage? Pls. check compu's post about leverage.
     
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  9. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Number one, being risk-averse is not a detriment. Defense is a major part of the sport (as it is EVERY sport).

    Number 2, sorry to dissapoint, but JMM doesnt throw better combos than Floyd. JMM is an excellent combo puncher, but Floyd's faster hands are clearly a factor here.

    He threw excellent combos against Hatton, Zab, Gatti, and Mosley, and on top of that his accuracy is a step above JMM's.

    Floyd also throws better left hooks than JMM, another punch that Pac is wide open for.

    I know you love Pac, but Floyd is the superior fighter in EVERY department to JMM. And if Pac has issues with JMM, you better believe he will have issues with Floyd. :deal
     
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  10. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd's OSDT testing procedure is better testing ?:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  11. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He had problems with Erik Morales too before he became a shell of his former self.
     
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  12. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Martinez, Khan, and Ortiz seem to think so....
     
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  13. PH|LLA

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    that's not how boxing works.

    JMM throws much better combinations than Floyd.

    You ignored the comment about the uppercut. I can only assume you agree that JMM throws far better uppercuts than Floyd.

    being risk-averse CAN be a detriment as we've seen several times over the years fighters dropping decisions because they are too risk-averse.

    Even if Floyd's defense is overall better than JMM's, their defenses are very different and JMM's might be better suited for Pac's specific offensive style.

    Like I said they have different styles.



    another thing is that Pac is not wide open for the left hook, you must be smoking that good ****.


    and BTW I don't just love Pac I love boxing and Pac happens to be the best at it right now
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 9, 2011
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  14. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leverage ?:lol:

    Not according to Marion Jones.
     
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  15. MAIN

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    too many excuses

    u want to throw the "shell of his former self" folks could throw the "manny was still green"

    just stfu and quit makin excuses

    manny beat him twice and made him quit the third time
     
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