If Pacman were American he would be ranked P4P #1...

If this is your criteria, then Rafael Marquez still rates ahead of Pacman IMO.

 

Why are you hating on Hopkins? Every time I try to big up him, someone's gotta rain on my parade by mentioning the Taylor fights. Those were two close fights, against a prime, undefeated, fighter. Hopkins never shys from a challenge. It's expected that he might take an L, given his style and the subjective nature of the sport. This is why so many fighters are afraid to challenge themselves. People like you want to kill them for losing. Even if the loss was due to a close decision, in what is a very subjective, inconsistent scoring system.

 

they got tired of me thats why... i cannot stand these morons who claimed " he has to be atg after that win." what win? holding and running away?
do you think that kind of winning warrants pound per pound status? atschatsch. pac fans are not nuthuggers. we have the bragging rights to prove it!! i can give you pictures of how pac manhandles his opponent. that is kneeling in front of him. not some stupid posters here that thinks holding will put you into atg :good

 

thats a good point

 

I agree with your assessment on why fighters are afraid to challenge themselves. But that doesn't change the fact that he has 2 recent losses where as PBF has none. And while people talk about PBF's competition...I don't see how Cotto beating Judah gets him ranked P4P (He was barely ranked prior, but that win put him in some people's top 5) but for PBF he is considered part of a string of nobodies.

 

go ahead.. this is a free internet. not chinese site. be free to use your imagination. you have your opinion, i have mine. but one thing is for sure, if you prefer a combination of marathon, 100 meter dash and hide and seek than a fighter riskig his life and blowing away his opponents, then may the boxing gods have mercy on your soul :yep:yep

 

fact is pbf aint got a lost and his record against elite fighter is much better and his reumes is to . pac notable fight are morales 1 loss 2 wins ,barrera, marquez draw, solis was undeated solid win, larrios soilid win, agapito sanchez wich was actually a very tought fight for him was a draw . l

pbf has foughten DLH,baldo,judah,mitchel,castillo twice,corrales,genaro hernandez. of course the last five years havent been creme del creme but his record is still better and corrales, dlh,judah,hernadez,castillo,baldo is better then berarra ko,morales 1loss 2 ko and marquez draw

 

after he destroys JMM, pac will be the P4P #1. PBF will be distant 2nd.

 

Pac should destroy JMM rather easily this time around. JMM isnt the same fighter he used to be. I dont even see JMM making it past Barrios in his upcoming fight.

 

Irregardless of NATIONALITY or FIGHTING STYLE . . . the guy is 6 divisional champ and still undefeated.

The question is . . . could have he gotten the same opportunities if he is not an American? The promoter will be playing a very big hand on this. :yep

 

Exactly.

 

I would put Hopkins in second place. First, to me, is definitely Floyd, but Hopkins can come in second and there's no shame in that.

If Floyd continues to fight and win, I wouldn't take away his top spot.

 

how is he running when he outlands and hurts his opponents? hey w/e dude its the internet say as you like.

 

I DON'T THINK YOU DO:hi:

 

i agree,but many wont.