If Pacquaio's issue with taking the blood testing was Mayweather demanding it...

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  1. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Only the butthurt don't count The Ring titles. :yep

    Major World Titles:
    WBC Flyweight World Champion (112 lbs)
    IBF Junior Featherweight World Champion (122 lbs)
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    WBC Super Featherweight World Champion (130 lbs)
    The Ring Junior Lightweight World Champion (130 lbs)
    WBC Lightweight World Champion (135 lbs)
    The Ring Junior Welterweight World Champion (140 lbs)
    WBO Welterweight World Champion (147 lbs)
    WBC Super Welterweight World Champion (154 lbs)

    Lineal Championship Titles:
    Lineal Flyweight World Champion (112 lbs)
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    Lineal Super Featherweight World Champion (130 lbs)
    Lineal Light Welterweight World Champion (140 lbs)

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  2. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Since when does the Ring title count?:huh its not a legit title... it never has been and never will be.
     
  3. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Something to think about here, How is it Manny says that by having blood drawn it will weaken him?:think

    Get this, and there is proof that it doesnt weaken you..... Mosley fought Pacquiao with no blood testing no OSTD random like testing, he was knocked down and beat each and every round with out a single drop of blood drawn from him.

    However when he did undergo OSTD Random style testing against Mayweather, he happend to hurt Floyd badly... so if anything the testing may help pacquiao...:hey

    Nah but realisticly that is a bit of proof there, however if its a mental issue, well your a pro, you should be mentally strong being on top at this game anyhow.
     
  4. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    thousands of boxing fights a year are made, millions since the sport has started, how many of those have taken blood test???
     
  5. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: He took HIS tests....how about taking true Olympic style testing? And why does he need to MAKE another man follow his rules in order for him to do the "right thing"?:? This is Floyd's movement and he claims to be doing it for the greater good of boxing....if that's the case the man should be setting the standard.....leading by example...showing his peers he's not a liar and actually created the situation to make the sport better.:rofl
     
  6. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So, Samski, where is floyd? :hat
     
  7. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Thats the point, we want a better method of testing.. becuase some fighters are making a good living by cheating.
     
  8. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    If you include linear titles, then yes, Manny Pacquiao is an 8 division world champion, but if you do not include linear titles, then he is only a 6 division world champion. Most people include linear titles when they discuss championships because the linear title signifies the man who beat the man, who beat the man, etc. In other words, it traces back the origin of the title to when there was only one, undisputed champion in each division, which is why most people look at the linear champs as the true champs in each division. By most knowledgeable boxing expert's standards, Pacquiao is an 8 division world champion due to him winning 6 recognized sanctioning bodies titles as well as several Ring Magazine titles and The Ring Magazine title is currently seen as the linear title by fans and experts of the sport alike since you cannot be stripped of it due to politics like you can with the sanctioning bodies titles. Here are the different world titles that he won throughout his career:

    12/4/1998- KO8 Chatchai Sasakul (wins WBC and linear flyweight titles)

    6/23/2001- KO6 Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (wins IBF junior bantamweight title)

    11/15/2003- KO11 Marco Antonio Barrera (wins Ring Magazine/linear featherweight title)

    3/15/2008- W12 Juan Manuel Marquez (wins WBC and Ring Magazine/linear junior lightweight titles)

    6/28/2008- KO9 David Diaz (wins WBC lightweight title)

    5/2/2009- KO2 Ricky Hatton (wins Ring Magazine/linear junior welterweight title)

    11/14/2009- KO12 Miguel Cotto (wins WBO welterweight title)

    11/13/2010- UD12 Antonio Margarito (wins WBC Super Welterweight title)

    And when he fought Barrera, MAB was technically the WBC featherweight world champion.. He had just beaten Morales in their second fight- who was the WBC featherweight world champion at the time, but Barrera chose to defend the Ring Magazine Featherweight title instead of accepting Erik Morales's WBC title. So when Pacquiao beat Barrera, he only gained the Ring Magazine featherweight title, but he should technically also have gotten the WBC featherweight title.

    :deal
     
  9. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I do not include titles that do not exist.... this is not a hate thing this is a real thing here, Why wouldnt I? Easy answer, those Ring Titles or Lineal titles, there is no sanctioning body to enforce a Mandotory defense, Meaning these guys can run round cherry pick who they want to fight and still be called the champ, when does the #1 or #2 rated guy get his shot? Never cus its not enforced due to the fact that its not a real title...
    its not a hate thing kid, but I am sure you will find a way to turn it in to that.
     
  10. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Then that is your opinion. It falls in the minority as most of the media and boxing industry recognizes lineal championships as titles. Some people say 6, most say 8.
     
  11. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It didn't help his crusade when he said Mosley needs to get back on the juice right before the pac fight. It was a joke, I think, still... not the best pr move.
     
  12. Bazooka

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    I know it does, but there is a flaw that people over look here, a fighter can take those titles hostage and cherry pick their fights and still be called the man.
    I have been against this idea since Kellerman started brainwashing the young kids about the ring title.
    How can you argue its a legit title when they do not enforce a mandotory defense?:think
    This is what Boxing is supposed to be about, fighting your way up to the top and defending once you get there, now in todays sport, you just need to have good management and when you do get there, well its like being in a fast food joint..
    Take a look at the menu, see what type of Opponents are out there that you can beat, and place your order...
    it shouldnt be that way, and I am pretty sure if you really do know your boxing, you can see my point here....
     
  13. sailor pops

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    The brits commentators when they spoke about Pac say 6, otherwise the whole world say 8.
    We all know how biased the brits commentators are after Pacquiao demolished their now obese champion.
     
  14. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    then floyd should have petitioned to the commission, not pac...
     
  15. Bazooka

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    I agree with you there, But then again he doesnt have to, he has made it clear if you want to fight Mayweather your going to take them test.

    its crazy how all of you all talk all this **** on Floyd (I have to no doubt) but in regards to him beating up his babys momma etc... and how he is such a low life, Only to look up and see who you have in your avatar.
    That man put a gun to the head of his pregnant wife... :-(