If Pacquiao Drops To 135 And Beats Lomachenko, Is He A Top 5 ATG?!?!?!

Lomachenko would outbox Coggi and Pacman on the same night, and still have the time to drive to a nightclub in his exclusive Ferrari.

 

This all sounds good, spot on, but Manny busts him up IMHO.

 

How on earth did I knock him down in either of my post? I asked was going down to beat a significantly smaller man OK now and then I explained how no one else got much credit for doing it so it shouldn't propel him that far.. If they fight great.. If he wins it will be a great win.. Does it make him greater than he is already? Maybe.. But all the way to top 5 all time? That's where the problem is...

 

You're right. I've brought this up a few times on this forum. Essentially everybody after age 35 is getting worse. Its biologically impossible to not get worse at that age. By the time a fighter is 37, operating at a p4p level is basically impossible. It's pretty much never done.

I'd say that around 31 or so a fighter begins to see his physical abilities erode. But it takes a few years for the decline to slowly add up to a blatantly noticeable point.

 

To answer the question it would boost Pacquiaos standing. I already consider him to be the 3rd greatest fighter of the last 50 years. Behind only Ali and Duran. Despite being a massive Pac fan I've never claimed him to be greater than Ali or Duran.

Hypothetically speaking of Pac were to beat Loma at 135 at 40 years old it would be a significant win on his resume. To add to an already stacked resume.

You would then have to seriously entertain questions asking is Pac greater than Ali and Duran.

 

Pacquiao is already closing in on top 10 all time.

He has by far the most stacked resume of anybody in recent memory and nobody even comes remotely close.

Beating Loma at 40 years old would be incredible. We've never seen something like before.

 

Wrong, no one actually did or is doing what he might do. Whose gone down two actual weight classes w/o dragging the other guy up? Where? DLH dragged Pac up two weight classes while he only went down one. Fluid dragged JMM up two classes while still cheating him on the scale. Whose gone down two classes to fight the P4P #1 in their prime, at their weight class, while being nearly 40 yrs old himself?

 

First, Pacquiao backed up the hype.

Second, Loma is incredibly talented. You cannot possibly be denying that, are you?

 

no, neither guy is near as good as you believe them to be, right now.

 

We've seen fighter like Pacquiao, Duran, Armstrong defy size. But we've never seen anybody beat father time.

 

This response is why your job is being a mod on the internet. I’m not the one playing pretend here about fighters. When I’m right, acknowledge it. All I ask. You’re boy g is destroying his garbage empire right now as we speak. What a great fighter he’s turning out to be. To Loma’s credit he’s far more skilled and has done more than Gia Golovkin. But that’s not saying much lmao

 

But he’s overrated. Why can’t people be honest and admit this lmao