If Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world ...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Double Jay, Sep 26, 2010.


  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    yes Pac can beat Wlad if you take their abilities relative to their weight.
     
  2. miggzthatnucca

    miggzthatnucca Active Member Full Member

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    Lol .. read one sentence @ a time buddy ... ull get the big picture ... and since u wanna be MR. G all of a sudden why don't u try and see where I went wrong and correct it ... then read what u thought I meant .. and state ur case and if u don't want to just ignore my comment ... if u don't understand what I'm saying then say that .. ill try and clarify .. if u don't care SHUT THE **** UP ... oh wait

    SHUT THE **** UP!!! ... is that better
     
  3. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    You are basically trying to understand why the Klits are not higher rated in the P4P sense since they have been dominating for a while now. right?

    It comes down to resume. The level of competition in the HW division has been very low since the early 80s. There are some spurts here and there but nothing sustained.

    So people do not have the full confidence at the Klits until very recently. It does help that technical skill sets heavily depend on their physical size.

    Yes, the HW can't go down but many fans and critics have also given them a free pass in regards to technical achievements. MANY HW ATGs where only above average technician - Ali, Foreman, Frazier.
    Ali is actually considered below average technician by some yet he is consistently in the top 5, if not top 3 by many.

    I would actually argue that the HW in general gets a free pass in regards to ATG and P4P ranking. Marciano is an example (to be fair the level of competition was not spectacular either).

    Roy Jones get massive credit (when I say massive, I mean HISTORICAL) for beating a guy that would be a tomato can in other divisions.

    HW division gets a free pass because it is all about the spectacular power. But when you are boring, above average power, above average technician and your competition sucks wose than you, then you are going to get shitted on by fans and critics - rightfully so.

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    version - The Klits got to show something other than being ****ing tall. They are boring. And he can't even win in a spectacular fashion very tomato cans. They do things the "good enough" fashion.
     
  4. Double Jay

    Double Jay Active Member Full Member

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    So the reasons are

    1. Weak competition
    2. Boring styles

    I have 2 words for you: Larry Holmes

    Americans/brits have to be honest with themselves and admit the main reason they don't like the Klitschkos. They came from Eastern Europe.
     
  5. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Yes, because 1 anecdotal answer makes it a general fact. It is like saying since your uncle is gay, everyone's uncle must be gay. Holmes

    You are "Eastern Europe" card is the equivalent of some black Americans pulling the race card.


    So you basically took the long road to say your true agenda, you are pissed at the supposed Eastern European bias in the P4P standing.

    WTF!

    BTW - if there is an Eastern European bias in boxing P4P rankings why is that? I mean why is there no Filipino bias? There are Europeans in both Yahoo and Ring's panel. I don't see any Filipinos (correct me if I am wrong).

    If there is a race bias against blacks, why is the top 10 filled with blacks?
     
  6. Flemo83

    Flemo83 Active Member Full Member

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    He has no chin, only another fist!
     
  7. Wiirdo

    Wiirdo Boxing Addict banned

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    Clottey>>>Baldomir>>>>>Floyd

    Clottey>>>Cotto>>>Margarito>>>>Mosley>>>>Floyd

    Just saying you can switch it any way you want really.
     
  8. Double Jay

    Double Jay Active Member Full Member

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    What anecdotal answer? Larry Holmes had a boring style and was in a weak division.

    I'm not pissed about the p4p lists because I don't care about them.
     
  9. trentkill

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    there's no if here! he is! :bbb
     
  10. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is the best.. pepepeperiod..
     
  11. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Wlad can get down to 147-154, I think it is safe to say Manny would pulverize him in a few seconds. So yes, he is.
     
  12. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Yes if he had a ladder and a bat
     
  13. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes,if Manny brings his friends to the fight-Smith& Wesson.FFS-this is ridiculous.****ing noobs.