if Pacquiao stops Marquez p4p # 1 ?

I agree that the "0" is very impressive for Cal and the fact that he's been champ for 10 yrs. But when talking about the P4P rankings "0" don't mean that much. Neither does how long one is champ. Otherwise Darius M would have been on the P4P rankings. Joe deserves to be ranked...when he beats Hop that will be more reason to put him at #2 but he hasn't beaten any great fighters.

A great fighter in JOE beating average or good fighters isn't impressive. Some of the things he does in the ring against guys that are not close to his level are pretty amazing! But the pulling out the "W" is expected. We want to see Joe put himself in an unexpected situation and challenge his talents....to see where his championship heart is. I think it's there but I can't say for sure. The mitchell fight is all I'm going off of to say he does have heart....but againt...Mitchell isnt close to Joe in terms of talent or skill.

 

i will consider him if he knockouts marquez or wins in a convincing fashion. i would also consider rating marquez as #1 or 2 if he beats pac impressively. the things is, floyd isn't active this year while pac, marquez, calzaghe and hopkins have all step up the competition.

 

Maybe a change in the P4P rankings would help motivate PBF to stop the BS and get back in the ring with someone who is a player in the boxing scene. So if that be the case, then Pac/Calz for #1!!!

 

I predicted Calzaghe to easily outbox Lacy before the fight. Anyone could tell that any guy with a decent chin and good movement would outbox the guy.

Sure Kessler was good and wasnt a big underdog but guess what, Pac was a huge underdog to MAB and Pac anihilates him much worse than Joe did Mikkel. So going off talents on show, I would go with the guy who anihilates an ATG top of his game vs a guy who UD's a live underdog.

Kessler is a good solid fighter with very solid skills. But nothing about him stands out. Hes not the fastest, not the most powerful and not the most technically skilled. Hes a good solid textbook boxer....much like Soto.

 

thank you for the consideration. it would be for floyd's best interest as well.

 

P4P number 1 no --

we've seen PBF in 5 different weight classes in the last 10 years, fighting in a total of 18 championship fights ... ohh and he's still undefeated. Thats the definition of P4P ... not a guy fighting the same guys 3 times around, then fighting unheard of bums. PacMan just hit the scene with a victory over Barrera in 03. Since then he hasn't captured and championship and hasn't beat anyone in their prime.

I would never dare compare quality of opposition or talent, because Floyd has the upper hand in those departments.

 

Nothing makes Kessler stand out?!?! What about that huge ass tatoo on the whole side of his body?! That had to hurt:yep

 

If he stops Marquez, and Mayweather looses to Oscar (or the Big show) then maybe, but until Mayweather get's outpointed or outboxed, he does not reliquish his crown.

 

both pac and pbf came from lower weights to get to where are they now. pac from 106 to 130 while pbf from 130 to 147. both are still dominating. both did fight quality oppositions but i would give pac the slight edge for beating great fighters like barrera and morales. floyd is ahead in terms of skills. the difference is now. pac is risking a fight with marquez while floyd is on a vacation.

 

It doesn't matter -- Pacquiao won't beat Marquez ...

I think alot of Pacquiao fans will be hurt once the decision comes out Saturday night.

Pacquiao can't fight going backwards (ineffective punching going backwards)
His money punch is the straight left and I think that Marquez learned his lesson the first time around.

Pacquiao has no defence ... yeah he moves his upper body but thats useless movement. He's not looking to avoid any punches ... oh and his balance is terrible ... its going to look like he's hurt when he's really not.

He's going to show Marquez respect and if he doesn't - you can see him being the one getting knocked out.

 

PBF lost the first JLC fight...he has also not faced any Top 15 opposition for two years.

To make p4p no. 1 again for sure, after Pacquiao v. JMM, he needs to beat Cotto.

 

Why are you talking as if you discovered Pacquiao?

I never heard of this guy before he fought Barrera and even then I didn't think he was anything special. Yeah he has strength but he can't box and if you back him up he's nothing ...

If you think that Pacquiao truly deserves a number 1 ranking thats your opinion bro and I respect it.

But you're going to be hearing some I told you so's Sunday morning.

 

It doesn't really matter if MAB EM or JMM were in their primes or not. B/c all men had an abundance of championship and high comp level experience. PAC came in there pretty GREEN to say the LEAST. ANd he ended up not only beating 3 of the best MEXICAN champions in this era but dominated....aside from JMM. Since 2003 PAC has taken out 2 P4P residents....3 if you want to say JMM after being GIVEN a draw. That alone deserves the #2 spot on the P4P ranks....so can argue the #1 spot due to the LACK of high level comp Floyd has also avoided although not to the extent of Joe C.

 

What are you talking about?

PBF is 39-0-0 ... his record is perfect and if i'm not mistaken he beat JLC twice.

Hatton was top 5 ranked P4P, undefeated, and is the lineal, universally recognized undisputed light welterweight champion.



You have that wrong Pacquiao's last 5 fights have been questionable.

Jorge Solis (not ranked 10)
Oscar Larios (shot fighter and a bantamweight)
Eric Morales (shot fighter 1-5 in his last 6 fights wasn't ranked top 10)
Marco Antonio Barrera (shot fighter - retired after fight and was coming off a loss to Marquez)

What thats top notch competition?
Yeah maybe in 2000 --

 

i am telling you what pac did because obviously, you underrate his achievements. and you didn't know that he came from flyweight and still doing great in superfeatherweight.

i don't mind if pac loses to marquez. if that happens, i would consider marquez at #1. my point is, floyd is not too active this year and will fight only once. i would not complain if its cotto but i think it would be delahoya2.