If Parker injured and Povetkin stepped in how would he do?

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair enough! And if Joshua fails to do that, and has any difficulty in not just beating Povetkin, but knocking Povetkin out unconscious (and I don't just mean a standing TKO stoppage), and takes any significant damage from Povetkin. Are you willing to concede that Joshua is overrated, horrible and not that good of a boxer considering Povetkin is meant to be a boxer who isn't on the level to pose any threat and is on the level to be destroyed easily?

    And are you willing and ready to not give any credit to Joshua for beating Povetkin, since Povetkin isn't good enough of a boxer to be credited a victory over?
     
  2. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you think I am a fanboy of AJ or something ?? I dont know what your agenda is.

    Povetkin is past it and was never the very best to start with. IMO AJ is overhyped if you look at my previous posts you would see this. Would I say that AJ must KO Povetkin cold .... no. But he should be able to stop hijm pretty comfortably given Povetkins style, as I said he would be custom made for AJ with his plod forward style.

    If AJ was to be beaten by him I would say that anything can happen in the HW's but if that did happen I would give it large "told you so's" to half of my mates ! AJ is far from being unbeatable. For me to give AJ proper credit he would have to clean out the entire division as its as poor as I can remember.
     
  3. AJfan

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    He'd do better than he did against Wlad. Would be an interesting clash of the PED titans. A battle tot see who's doping game is the best. I'd be up for it!
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure! Because you're holding Anthony Joshua to a very high standard and predicting him to KO someone who has never been KO'd in his life. Someone who is 38 years old. Someone who has done kickboxing and amateur boxing and pro boxing for over 2 decades and is still yet to be KO'ed. Someone who has only been dropped once in his amateur + pro boxing career combined, consisting of 200 or more bouts.


    So surely, you must think of Anthony Joshua very highly if that's the case and I'm just holding Joshua to the standard that you seem to be holding him in. And you're making it out like this extraordinary feat is an average / normal feat. Thus, you appear to be a huge fan of Anthony Joshua. Thus, if Joshua fails to meet this standard, you must stay consistent and be critical of Joshua.

    And you can't give any credit to Anthony Joshua after his victory, if you're already making this fight out to be a mismatch before this fight even takes place.
     
  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I think Povetkin is :
    1 - past it, way past it (i think his prime was about 5/6 years ago) especially as he might be off the gear now
    2 - far too small for AJ
    3 - Style plays into AJ's hands

    If he was to beat Povetkin Id give him some credit yes of course I would does it mean that I think AJ is as good as they hype says, no I dont.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If we've learned anything from recent results at heavyweight it's that when you get into your late 30's like Povetkin your fighting an uphill battle.

    Offensively he'll land more on Joshua than Parker will, but he'll also take far more back. Joshua stops him in the middle rounds.
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So basically, what you've just stated is that this is a mismatch in favor of Anthony Joshua in terms of size, age and style. Basically, it's a mismatch in every meaningful department!

    So why are you going to give credit to someone (Anthony Joshua) for beating an opponent in a total mismatch where the opponent doesn't even seemingly belong in the same ring with Joshua?
     
  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look I think Povetkin at his prime prob beats AJ... Buts not now I think at this stage in both their careers. Just cos someone is better than someone else doesn't mean the other is no good. Povetkin is decent but no more than that now. I really do not know what ur arguing now? Do I think AJ is awesome, no. Do I think Povetkin is past it? Yes . Did u give Ali no credit for beating frazier even tho Ali was better?

    Povetkin isn't as good as he once was does that mean I think he is terrible, no
     
  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But then, you should give Joshua 0 credit for beating Povetkin if you think this is a mismatch. Isn't that what you think? That this's a mismatch? Considering you stated that Povetkin is too small + too old + has the wrong style to fight against Joshua and that he doesn't survive more than 3 rounds.

    Well, would you give any credit to a fully grown adult destroying a 5 year old child in a fight that is a mismatch? Well then, why should you give Joshua any credit for such a victory over such an over matched opponent?
     
  10. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Define a mismatch, almost all fights contain one fighter better than the other hence why you end up with a winner. Do I think Povetkin v AJ is a mismatch no. But I think AJ wins. Just cos u think someone wins a fight doesn't make it mismatch. For eg if wilder and AJ fought it wouldn't be a mismatch but each are more than capable of winning the fight in the first round
     
  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At no point have I ever said that AJ v Povetkin wld be a mismatch. Nowherem I think there are still things Povetkin does better than aj
     
  12. OvidsExile

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  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Povetkin could easily outbox the Femi that faced Takam and/or knock him out. Easy.
     
  14. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You serious?
     
  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A 'mismatch' is when a contest between two boxers is so lopsided, that it isn't even competitive or if a boxer has less than 10% chances of winning.

    A competitive contest that is close to 50/50 in terms of who would win between two boxers, isn't a 'mismatch'. Such as Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko for example.