If Paul Williams And Floyd Mayweather Fought What Would You Haters Do With Yourselfs?

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Originally Posted by NALLEGE
    What makes you say that? At WW, who did Hearns beat that was as good as Williams? Just asking...

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    No one. Hearns never beat anyone @ WW as good as Williams...EVER. :lol:

    Now you said, "if you really think Wiliams is better than any WW Hearns fought, run with it". What gave you that idea that I thought this? :huh
     
  2. NALLEGE

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    Yeah, I just wanted the other poster to name some names, and then lets compare Williams to them that's all. Good post.:good
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    And you were asking that ....why? Don't try to mince words. Asking that questions suggests you think Hearns has not. If you don't believe that, then why would you ask it like that? Anyway, arguing over semantics is a waste of time. Think we both know that.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    If this is a topic you really want to discuss, perhaps a thread of it's own would be better. :deal
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    I was asking to see who the poster would mention so we can debate. Don't mince words? You see, this is what I'm talking about. "Asking that question SUGGESTS" lol. All I did was copy and paste my post, and yet the above response is what YOU got out of it. The thing was I wasn't even talking to you, and you responded thinking you had made some sarcastic point lol. "SUGGESTS" LOL... I don't suggest, I ask.
     
  6. NALLEGE

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    No, I just asked that poster a question. If you want create a thread, go ahead. I just wanted to know what that poster thought that's all lol.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

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    Geez...uptight much? :lol:

    How about you answer that question yourself? Start a thread and ask that. See what the board thinks. If it's a legitimate question, should be some good responses.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

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    You kids better stop disrespecting Hearns
     
  9. NALLEGE

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    You want me to answer the question myself, and start a thread lol. All I wanted was a response from the poster I posed the question to.
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    Oh, I'm sure we both loved Hearns as a fighter lol...
     
  11. elchivito

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    tough one, but i'd probably give the edge to floyd. his speed, defense, and working the angles should make the difference. still not to sure tho. quintana did lay a blue print to beat pw, but i don't know if floyd might be laying into pw's hands if he tried doing that rope a dope on the ropes cuz even if pw wouldn't land a clean shot, he's a guy that if he don't catch u with one hard shot, he can lay down more than 1,000 per fight. floyd would have to be doing alot of running on this one cuz pw will find him and when he does catch him he's gonna want to take full advantage of it. pw gets sloppy and unfocused at times, floyd whether he's dominating or in trouble, is always in it
     
  12. Ambition_Def

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    Actually no.

    The way PW caught Quintana was by letting Quintana fall in. The first time around PW could not find Quintana because Quintana was lunging all the way inside and slipping his punches from the outside. This time around Williams let Quintana come to him and he nailed him on the way in with a counter left. After that punch it was all downhill for Quintana.
     
  13. NALLEGE

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    Good post, but I didn't see it that way. Williams was way more aggressive in the rematch. Q just straight outboxed Williams and he was just countering Williams all night in the first fight. In the rematch, Q might've seemed more aggressive, but it was because Williams was coming at him. Q expected this, but he got caught early.
     
  14. Ambition_Def

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    Once he caught Quintana he was more aggressive. No argument there.

    But before that he kept his distance and used his jab like he should have the first time. It set the distance for the counter left inside.

    The issue with moving forward against that Ruizesque punch and grab **** is that he's using your movement against you. You move and he moves too and before you can get a punch off he's on your chest. The key is to not move forward and to just pop him with the jab when he opens up. Force him to take two steps instead of one and he'll leave himself open eventually for a counter.

    It wasn't really hard to figure out what Quintana was doing in the first fight. They watched tapes on Williams and saw how he gave up his height by moving forward throwing multiple punches. Quintana simply made for an ugly fight and barely edged it. I knew that fight was a mistake for Williams and the rematch proved it.
     
  15. Marnoff

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    If Floyd and Williams fight, I'll be betting heavily on Floyd, and collecting as I always do when Floyd fights.